Special relativity - Maximum mass

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Homework Statement


Finding the maximum mass ##M_x## which can be made from a collision of identical particles with mass ##m##, in the laboratory frame, in which one particle is at rest and the other one has energy ##E##. The reaction is the following: ##a+b \rightarrow a+b+x##.

The Attempt at a Solution


I assume that the maximum mass is produced when the three resultant particles are at rest in the CM frame. So I use the invariant of the total momentum squared from the lab frame before the collision (##p##) and the CM frame after the collision (##k##):
$$p_1=(E,0,0,\sqrt{E^2-m^2}) \hspace{1cm} p_2=(m,0,0,0)$$
$$(p_1+p_2)^2 = 2m(E+m)$$
$$k_1=k_2=(m,0,0,0) \hspace{1cm} k_x=(M_x,0,0,0)$$
$$(k_1+k_2+k_x)^2=4m^2+4mM_x+m^2_x$$
I equal the invariants:
$$2m(E+m)=4m^2+4mM_x+M^2_x$$
After calculation I find a second order equation in ##M_x## whose solutions are:
$$-2m\pm\sqrt{2m^2+2mE}$$
I reject the solution with - because it is completely negative but also the solution with + is negative under a certain value of E. I do not know if this is because a mistake or it is the threshold energy of the reaction.
 
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Aleolomorfo said:

Homework Statement


Finding the maximum mass ##M_x## which can be made from a collision of identical particles with mass ##m##, in the laboratory frame, in which one particle is at rest and the other one has energy ##E##. The reaction is the following: ##a+b \rightarrow a+b+x##.

The Attempt at a Solution


I assume that the maximum mass is produced when the three resultant particles are at rest in the CM frame. So I use the invariant of the total momentum squared from the lab frame before the collision (##p##) and the CM frame after the collision (##k##):
$$p_1=(E,0,0,\sqrt{E^2-m^2}) \hspace{1cm} p_2=(m,0,0,0)$$
$$(p_1+p_2)^2 = 2m(E+m)$$
$$k_1=k_2=(m,0,0,0) \hspace{1cm} k_x=(M_x,0,0,0)$$
$$(k_1+k_2+k_x)^2=4m^2+4mM_x+m^2_x$$
I equal the invariants:
$$2m(E+m)=4m^2+4mM_x+M^2_x$$
After calculation I find a second order equation in ##M_x## whose solutions are:
$$-2m\pm\sqrt{2m^2+2mE}$$
I reject the solution with - because it is completely negative but also the solution with + is negative under a certain value of E. I do not know if this is because a mistake or it is the threshold energy of the reaction.
What values of ##E## are you worried about?
 
Aleolomorfo said:
After calculation I find a second order equation in ##M_x## whose solutions are:
$$-2m\pm\sqrt{2m^2+2mE}$$
I reject the solution with - because it is completely negative but also the solution with + is negative under a certain value of E. I do not know if this is because a mistake or it is the threshold energy of the reaction.
Remember ##E## is the energy of a particle of mass ##m##.
 
Yes, I get it. I've realized the stupidity of my question. ##M_x## is negative if ##E < m##, but this is impossible. Thank you.
 
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