Special Relativity Ship Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temporal separation between the firing of a proton and its impact on the rear wall of a ship moving at 0.920c. The initial approach involved using velocity and length contraction equations, but the user realized they neglected the ship's movement toward the proton, which affects the distance the proton must travel. A suggestion was made to utilize Lorentz transformations for a clearer solution, emphasizing that the relative motion of the ship alters the time it takes for the proton to reach the rear. The conversation highlights the importance of considering both length contraction and relative motion in such relativistic problems. Ultimately, the correct approach requires integrating these factors to accurately determine the time interval.
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Homework Statement


A ship (attached to reference frame S') passes us (we are standing in reference frame S) with velocity = 0.920c. A proton is fired at speed 0.975c relative to the ship from the front of the ship to the rear. The proper length of the ship is 775 m.
What is the temporal separation between the time the proton is fired and the time it hits the rear wall of the ship according to us?


Homework Equations


u'=(u-v)/(1-((uv)/c^2))
Length contraction:
L=Lo/gamma
t=x/v


The Attempt at a Solution


I thought to let u be .975c
Let v be -.920c
solve for u' and get 2.99684e8 m/s
Observers on Earth will see a shorter length for the ship that is 775m/gamma
gamma = 1/sqrt(1-(.920^2)) and so the contracted length is 303.737m
This contracted length is x and divide it by u' to get 1.014 μs
This though was not the right answer.
Thanks
 
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You're not accounting for the fact that the rear end of the ship is moving forward toward the proton, so in S', the proton doesn't actually have to travel the entire distance equal to the contracted length of the ship.

Are you familiar with the Lorentz transformations? I usually find problems like these are easier to do using the transformations (not that there's anything wrong with your approach either).
 
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