Special Relativity: time for light to traverse a rocket

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The problem involves a 35 m long rocket receding at 0.6c and asks how long it takes for light to travel from the bottom to the top and from the top to the bottom of the rocket from the perspective of a stationary observer. The subject area is special relativity, focusing on the effects of relative motion on the propagation of light.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the Lorentz factor (gamma) and its implications for the problem. There are attempts to derive the time taken for light to traverse the rocket using different methods, including a series expansion and a direct relationship between distances traveled by light and the rocket.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches to the calculations, while others have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's calculations. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the speed of light in different reference frames, and the discussion remains open without a definitive resolution.

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There is mention of a miscalculation regarding the value of gamma, as well as a correction to the length of the rocket based on a typing error. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made in the calculations regarding the propagation of light.

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Homework Statement


A 35 m long rocket is receding at 0.6c. From the point of view of a stationary observer, how long does it take for light to travel (a) from the bottom of the rocket to the top and (b) from the top to the bottom?

Homework Equations


t = d/v
L = L0 / gamma

The Attempt at a Solution


a) L = 35 / gamma = 30.3 m
distance traveled by light = L + 0.6L + 0.6^2L + 0.6^3L + ... = 2.5L = 75.8 m
t = distance traveled by light/c = 2.5E-7 s

b) distance traveled by light = 1/(1 + 0.6)L = 18.9 m
t = distance traveled by light/c = 2.5E-7 s = 6.3E-8 s

Is this right? If not, please help me understand.
 
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It is not correct. The equations you refer to in section 2 is relevant for your problem, but then you somehow calculate wrong value for gamma and get very confused about how fast light propagate showing you have missed a very special characteristic about speed of light that is fundamental to relativity.

So, can you write up an expression for gamma? And what is the speed of light in all reference frames?
 
Other than the calculation of gamma, which I have not checked, that looks correct.
(a) can be done without the infinite series, by noting that the light travels distance tc while the top of the rocket travels distance 0.6tc, so the difference between the two, which is the length of the rocket L, must be 0.4tc. Hence t = L/0.4 c.
 
Filip: Oops. I typed 0.5 instead of 0.6 in my calculator for the speed of the rocket. L = 28.0, not 30.3. I think everything else is correct.
Andrew: Thanks for showing me another way to calculate t.
 

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