Speed aircraft carrier based on reflected pulse frequency

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of an aircraft carrier based on the frequency shift of a sonar pulse emitted by a submarine moving towards it. The submarine emits a 2400 Hz pulse, which is reflected back at a frequency of 2310 Hz, with the speed of sound in water given as 1500 m/s. The equations provided relate the frequencies and velocities of the moving sources and observers, but the user expresses uncertainty in applying them correctly. After attempting to derive the expressions for the frequencies, the user concludes that the calculated speed of the carrier is approximately 40.65 m/s, moving away from the submarine. The user seeks confirmation on the accuracy of their solution.
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Homework Statement


Submarine is traveling at 12 m/s toward an aircraft carrier emits a 2400 Hz sonar pulse. The reflected pulse returns with a frequency 2310 Hz.
What is the speed of the aircraft carrier?
(Positive/negative means the carrier is moving toward/away from the submarine.) The speed of sound in water is 1500 m/s.


Homework Equations


-C-Vair/-C-Vsub*Freq1ofSub = Freq1ofAircraft
C - Vsub/C - Vair*Freq2ofair = Freq2ofSub


The Attempt at a Solution


Im not sure how to solve the problem using those equations :frown:
 
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First find the expression for frequency n1 of the pulse reaching the aircraft carrier with the source and the detector moving. Now consider the pulse of frequency n1 (reflected) is emitted by the aircraft carrier (moving source). Find expression of the frequency n2 received by moving detector (submarine). This frequency n2 is equal to 2310 Hz. solve the equations.
 
I tried working it out again but I am not sure if its right.

n ' = n [v - vo] / [v - vs]
c>>>carrier, b>>submarine
all v (sound), v0(observer), vs (source) are moving in + x direction

when submarine is source: carrier observer (reflecting)
n ' = 2400 [1500 - vc] / [1500 - vb]
n ' = [2400/1488] [1500 - vc] ----(1)


only difference being that v is now opposite to convention
v changed to (- v)

n'' = n ' [- v - vo] / [- v - vs]
n'' = n ' [- 1500 - 12] / [- 1500 - vc]
n'' = n ' [1512] / [1500 + vc]
2310 = n ' [1512] / [1500 + vc]
2310 [1500 + vc] = 1512 n' >>>use (1) put n'
2310*1488 [1500 + vc] = 1512*2400 [1500 - vc]
7161 [1500 + vc] = 7560 [1500 - vc]
7161 [1500 + vc] = 7560 [1500 - vc]
14721 vc = 1500 [7560 - 7161]
vc = 40.65 m/s moving away from submarine in the same direction.

dont think its right can someone help me?
 
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