Speed of light in pure Hydrogen

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The speed of light in hydrogen depends on the gas density, with the refractive index for hydrogen at standard temperature and pressure being approximately 1.000132. When light passes through 1m³ of hydrogen at a density of 0.0899 kg/m³, the speed can be calculated using the refractive index. A calculation provided in the discussion yielded a speed of 299,960,405.22 m/s, which is nearly equal to the speed of light in a vacuum. However, concerns were raised about the accuracy of this calculation due to significant figures, suggesting the use of a more precise value for the speed of light. Accurate calculations are essential for understanding light behavior in various media.
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Hello Everyone

Can anyone tell me what is the speed of light in hydrogen or may be where can I find that for all the elements.
Has these datas available already in or books.
Thanks in advance !
 
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Arnaho said:
Hello Everyone

Can anyone tell me what is the speed of light in hydrogen or may be where can I find that for all the elements.
Has these datas available already in or books.
Thanks in advance !

This is a very vague question, because it depends on the gas DENSITY. I could have only one hydrogen atom in a vacuum and the speed of light would not change by any noticeable means.

Zz.
 
Hi Zz. !
Thanks ! Yes of course ! Say we are in space with 1m3 of H2 trapped inside a chamber. And now if we pass the light thru it, than can we know the difference in the speed of light compared to its original ?
 
Arnaho said:
Hi Zz. !
Thanks ! Yes of course ! Say we are in space with 1m3 of H2 trapped inside a chamber. And now if we pass the light thru it, than can we know the difference in the speed of light compared to its original ?

You've just given me the volume of the gas, not its density.

Zz.
 
Oops ! Let's assume the density is 0.0899 kg/m3. How should I proceed now ??!
Thanks for your answers.
 
At stp the refractive index of hydrogen (H2) is 1.000 132 (for Sodium D line probably)
The refractive index increases linearly with pressure (for an ideal gas) but i don't have the constant for hydrogen
 
mgb_phys said:
The refractive index increases linearly with pressure (for an ideal gas) but i don't have the constant for hydrogen

Wouldn't (n-1) simply be proportional to the gas density?
 
Redbelly98 said:
Wouldn't (n-1) simply be proportional to the gas density?

Yes sorry, I meant (n-1) rather than n. We tend to assume (n-1) .
But the poster presumably still needs the constant.
 
Hello again, So I calculated the light speed in H2 and its value is this 299960405.22 m/s. Almost equal to its speed in vacuum. This is how I did, I got the refractive index for H2 and its 1.000132. And 1/1.000132 will give us 0.99986... when multiplied with the Speed of light in vacuum ie, 3x10^8 m/s we will get the speed of light in H2. Please correct me if am wrong. Thanks !
 
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There is a problem that your answer is actually greater than c! The issue here is with the accuracy of your answer (i.e. number of significant figures)

If you're using 3x108 m/s for c, that's only 1 significant digit of accuracy, so the answer for H2 would still be 3x10^8 m/s.

Even if you use 3.00x108 m/s, that still won't change significantly when divided by 1.000132.

Better yet: use 2.997925x108 m/s. That has the same number of significant figures (7) as the refractive index.
 
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Okay, Thanks ! I will try with this and let see what comes up !
 
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