Springs: Inclined ramp, object moving down towards spring

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The discussion centers on designing a delivery ramp for crates weighing 1470 N, which descend at a speed of 1.80 m/s on a 25-degree incline. The ramp experiences a kinetic friction force of 540 N, and the crates must compress a spring at the bottom without rebounding. Participants explore the energy conservation equation, incorporating kinetic energy, gravitational potential energy, and work done against friction to find the spring constant. The calculations suggest that the spring must exert enough force to counteract both the gravitational component and friction to prevent the crates from rolling back. The conversation emphasizes resolving these energy components to determine the spring constant and compression distance accurately.
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Homework Statement



You are designing a delivery ramp for crates containing exercise equipment. The crates weighing 1470 N will move at a speed of 1.80 m/s at the top of a ramp that slopes downward at an angle 25.0. The ramp exerts a kinetic friction force of 540 N on each crate, and the maximum static friction force also has this value. Each crate will compress a spring at the bottom of the ramp and will come to rest after traveling a total distance of 7.70 m along the ramp. Once stopped, a crate must not rebound back up the ramp.

Homework Equations



K1 + Ugrav1 + Uelastic1 - Wfriction = K2 + Ugrav2 + Uelastic2

The Attempt at a Solution



K1 = 0.5*150*1.8^2
Ugrav1 = 0
Uelastic1 = 0
Wfriction = (540)(7.7) = 4158

K2 = 0
Ugrav2 = 1470*(-7.7)(sin25) = -4783
Uelastic2 = 0.5k(7.7^2)

Using the above equation, I got k = 29.27. Unfortunately, this is not the correct answer, so I am a little stuck as to what I need to do next.
 
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DPatel304 said:
You are designing a delivery ramp for crates containing exercise equipment. The crates weighing 1470 N will move at a speed of 1.80 m/s at the top of a ramp that slopes downward at an angle 25.0. The ramp exerts a kinetic friction force of 540 N on each crate, and the maximum static friction force also has this value. Each crate will compress a spring at the bottom of the ramp and will come to rest after traveling a total distance of 7.70 m along the ramp. Once stopped, a crate must not rebound back up the ramp.

I am guessing that the question here is to determine the spring constant?

What is also not determined here is the distance over which the spring will compress. But since they don't want it to rebound from the bottom position then we know at least it must supply a force that satisfies is Hookes F = -kx. And that force would be 1470N*Sin25 + the frictional force from the rollers of 540N preventing it from rolling back up seems to me.

So now you can solve your energy equation

PE loss = 1470*7.7*sin25 ; basically your usual m*g*h
Then there is the work of friction over the distance as you found as well as the initial kinetic energy also found.

And all that you can now resolve into one equation that relates 1/2kx2. That and your other equation should allow you to determine x and k right?
 
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