Static Equilibrium and Moment of Inertia problems

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The discussion focuses on solving two problems related to static equilibrium and moment of inertia. For the first problem, participants analyze the forces P1 and P2 in a mechanical system, confirming the equations for equilibrium and discussing the implications of slender members being in compression. In the second problem, the centroid of a shaded area is calculated, with suggestions to use the parallel axis theorem for finding the moment of inertia. There is also a request for assistance with calculating the moment of inertia and natural frequency of a trapezoidal plate resembling an aircraft wing. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper force analysis and geometric considerations in these engineering problems.
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Please help me do these :

[PLAIN]http://broadcastsol.com/321.JPG


Prob1
The mechanical system of massless members is shown in the figure. Determine the relationship between two forces P1 and P2 to keep the system in equilibrium at position as showing in the figure.

Prob2.
Consider the shaded planar area with the y-axis as the axis of symmetry si shown in the figure. Determine the location (x, y) of the centroid and moment of inertia for the area about the x-axis.



The attempt at a solution


1)

M(A) = -P1*L+FBD*a = 0 -> FBD = P1*L/a

DEF is equilibrium :

Ex+P2=0
Ey+FBD=0

Ey/Ex = tan(30) = FBD/P2 = P1*L / a*P2

Is this right ?

Many Thanks.
 
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Note that the slender members BD, DE, and DF are in compression, which is odd because this implies that these members are slender rods and not cords, which can't take compression. Looking at the sketch, I thought they were cords. But regardless, your solution for the (compressive) force in BD is good. But in looking at the slender members, should there also be a vertical force at F?
 
If there's a vertical force at F (eg Fx) it will be :

Ex+P2-Fx=0
Ey+FBD=0

I think I can't solve this.
 
N0, you had the equation in the x direction correct the first time. If there is a vertical force at F, that's Fy, not Fx. From symmetry, what's the relation between Ey and Fy?
 
So you mean:


Ex+P2=0
Ey+Fy+FBD=0

where Ey=Fy
 
In Prob2, can I divide the shape to 2 rectangular :

The centroid of upper rectangular is located at (0,9/2) & the other one is (0,2a) -> The centroid of the shape is located at (0,43a/14) right. How can I find the moment of inertia for the area about the x-axis.
 
Your picture seems to have disappeared. Use the parallel axis theorem.
 
Hi friends,
How to find moment of inertia and natural frequency of a trapezoidal plate having thickness 6mm and it looks like aircraft wing.
please help me to solve this problem
 
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