Statics-Two wires holding traffic light

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in two wires supporting a traffic light, with a given mass and angles for the tension forces. The problem involves static equilibrium and the application of trigonometric relationships to resolve forces.

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  • Participants explore different equations for vertical and horizontal force balances, with some questioning the values used in calculations. There are attempts to derive the tensions based on the mass of the traffic light and the angles provided.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the tensions in the wires, while others have raised questions about specific values and assumptions, such as the weight of the traffic light. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct values.

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There is a discrepancy noted regarding the weight of the traffic light, with different values being referenced. The discussion includes a focus on the correct application of static equilibrium principles and the importance of accurate trigonometric calculations.

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I don't know what i did wrong

Find the tension in the two wires supporting the traffic light
Mass of light= 33 kg
θ of FT1= 53°
θ of FT2=37°

Ʃfx=0
Ft1cos53-ft2cos37=0
ft1cos53=ft2cos37

Ʃfy=mg
ft1sin53-ft2sin37=mg
ft1sin53=mg+ft2sin37
ft1=(ft2sin37+mg)/sin53
ft1=1.33ft2

1.33ft2=(ft2sin37+mg)/sin53
1.33ft2=.72ft2+mg
.61ft2=323.73 N
Ft2=530.7n

ft1cos53=ft2cos37
ft1cos53=423.84n
ft1=704.26n
 
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Tension forces always pull away from the objects on which they act. In the horizontal direction, your equation is correct. Not so in the vertical direction.
 
This is what I got:
TLsin(53o) + TRsin(37o) - 294 N= 0 TRcos(37o) - TLcos(53o) = 0
TR = TLcos(53o)/cos(37o)

TLsin(53o) + TRsin(37o) - 294N= 0
TLsin(53o) + {TLcos(53o)/cos(37o)}sin(37o) - 294 = 0
TLsin(53o) + TLcos(53o)tan(37o) = 294N
TL(sin(53o) + cos(53o)tan(37o)) = 294N
TL = (294 N)/(sin(53o) + cos(53o)tan(37o)) = 234.79884N = 230N

TR = TLcos(53o)/cos(37o)
TR = (234.79884 N)cos(53o)/cos(37o) = 176.9336 N = 180N

Left wire has 230N of tension
Right wire has 180N of tension
 
I don't know where you got the 294N from? 33kg * 9.8 = 323N. g is 9.8, not 8.9!

Your maths seems right though.

You can check your answer easily also. 230sin(53) + 180sin(37) = 292N, which is close enough (since you rounded your answers) to 294.
 
Well dangit... I guess I got that one wrong then!
 
PhantomJay is correct

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Hope this helps.
 

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