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The discussion revolves around a statistical problem involving independent and identically distributed (iid) random variables, specifically focusing on the normal distribution and its properties. Participants are tasked with showing a relationship between the joint probability density function and functions of the sample mean.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the probability density function for the normal distribution and explore how to express it in terms of the sample mean and another function. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of notation and the significance of independence in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have made attempts to derive the necessary functions and clarify the notation involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of the normal distribution, particularly concerning the sample mean. Guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the probability density function, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

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Participants note potential issues with the expressions used for the normal distribution and question the implications of the notation in the problem statement. There is also mention of an attachment containing further calculations, indicating that some information may be outside the immediate discussion.

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Homework Statement



Assume z_1, ..., z_m are iid,z_i = μ+\epsilon_i

\epsilon_i]is N(0,σ^2)

Show that
f(z; μ) = g(\bar{z}; μ)h(z)
where h(·) is a function not depending on μ.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Now z is normal distributed with mean my and variance sigma^2

f(z,\mu) = \frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(z-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}

f(z; μ) = \prod_{i=1}^m \frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(z_i-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}

f(\bf{z},\mu) = (\frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}})^m \prod_{i=1}^m e^{-\frac{(z_i-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}

but how do I go from here to
f(z; μ) = g(\bar{z}; μ)h(z)

And am I in the right track?
 
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MaxManus said:

Homework Statement



Assume z_1, ..., z_m are iid,z_i = μ+\epsilon_i

\epsilon_i]is N(0,σ^2)

Show that
f(z; μ) = g(\bar{z}; μ)h(z)
where h(·) is a function not depending on μ.

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



Now z is normal distributed with mean my and variance sigma^2

f(z,\mu) = \frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(z-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}

f(z; μ) = \prod_{i=1}^m \frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(z_i-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}




f(\bf{z},\mu) (\frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}})^m \prod_{i=1}^m e^{-\frac{(z_i-\mu)^2}{2 \sigma^2}}

but how do I go from here to
f(z; μ) = g(\bar{z}; μ)h(z)

And am I in the right track?

I assume the notation means that g(\bar{z}) is the pdf of the sample mean. If so, you need to find the function g. What properties of the normal distribution are important for doing that? What is the importance of the fact that the z_i are independent?

RGV
 
Thanks

I'm not sure what the notation mean, but I assumed g was a function of the sample mean and mu. But if it is the pdf of the sample mean.
The pdf of \bar{z} is the pdf to the normal distribution with mean \mu] and variance \sigma^2/m
So
g(\bar{z}) = \frac{1}{(\sigma^2/m )\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(\bar{z}-\mu)^2}{2 (\sigma^2/m)}}

But I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
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MaxManus said:
Thanks

I'm not sure what the notation mean, but I assumed g was a function of the sample mean and mu. But if it is the pdf of the sample mean.
The pdf of \bar{z} is the pdf to the normal distribution with mean \mu] and variance \sigma^2/m
So
g(\bar{z}) = \frac{1}{(\sigma^2/m )\sqrt{2 \pi}} e^{-\frac{(\bar{z}-\mu)^2}{2 (\sigma^2/m)}}

But I'm not sure where to go from here.

So,
g = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}\sigma/\sqrt{n}}\exp{\left[\left(\frac{z_1+z_2+\cdots+z_n}{n}-\mu \right)^2/(2 \sigma^2 /n)\right]}.

You are supposed to show that f(z,μ)/g does not have μ in it.

PS: your expressions for the normal distributions are a bit wrong: you should have\frac{1}{\sigma \sqrt{2 \pi}}, \text{ not } \frac{1}{\sigma^2 \sqrt{2 \pi}} in front.

RGV
 
Thanks for all the help.

To those who want to see the rest of the calculation it is in the attachment.
 

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