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Poor Paris... the price she must pay for being fabulous.
Ivan Seeking said:Why is Paris Hilton famous? There are plenty of other rich brats who don't get the attention that she does.
drankin said:Because she's particularly hot.
No, I'd say she's mostly famous for being a bratty tramp. People watched her show for only one reason: it was funny to watch her be a bratty little *****.Smurf said:She's not though, she's just extremely skinny.
Does ANS ring a bell? She was a pretty meaty lady, and she got more press than Paris. I'd take the Serena Williams type over Paris any day, though Anna Kournikova is cute and hot. Maybe the hottest ticket in the UK is the page 3 girl Keeley Hazell (spelling?). She's slim, but she's got a couple of things going for her.Surrealist said:Where have you been? skinny = hot
When's the last time you saw a plus size model get any real attention?
Surrealist said:I agree with Huckleberry. If they put her in jail, she will be torn to pieces.
We have to use discretion... not just follow rules like unintelligent robots.
Not exactly - she was released to house arrest. She'll wear a tracking bracelet and can't go ouside her house for more than 1/2 hour per day. I don't agree with it either, but it isn't quite the same as being released outright.Huckleberry said:Well, it seems Paris has served her sentence. The original length of her sentence was supposed to be over 40 days. That was reduced to 20 something days. Now she has been released after spending only 3 days in jail.
Have you ever watched said television show? People base their opinions of her primarily on her conduct on that show, and her behavior is sub-human. Seriously, if her last name were not Hilton, with her attitude and work ethic, she'd probably be a crack whore.Mallignamius said:This woman has been held to ridiculous standards, like most celebrities and politicians. Whenever I dig a little bit, nearly every last human being who pronounces her a slutty little b**ch isn't any better at all, and often times quite worse for certain past actions. Has she become the opportunity for the guilty to pass the pepper?
She is not so evil or vile to warrant any ill words. Not a one! This "spoiled" woman works for a living. She produced her own television show that lasted more than one season. What's more, this program had her work with the public, and come into their homes. That's courageous.
Dear Mallignamius,Mallignamius said:Oh, people will point to her sex videos and purport that she released them intentionally, for publicity. So she's a slut. Or her lifestyle of superthin encourages other girls to live the unhealthy and dangerous lack of appetite. So she's a menace. Even her perfume: she never invented it, she has no right to have her name on it. She's a fraud.
When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.russ_watters said:Not exactly - she was released to house arrest. She'll wear a tracking bracelet and can't go ouside her house for more than 1/2 hour per day. I don't agree with it either, but it isn't quite the same as being released outright.
10-4. She pouted and they let her out, only to "serve" her time in luxury. "Jeeves, I'll have the filet mignon with truffles and steamed asparagus for dinner with a bottle of Mouton Rothschild 1945." If she had been an ordinary citizen, she'd be doing her time. Who says the US is a democracy? We are oligarchy ruled by the wealthy, who do not have to submit to the rule of law.Evo said:When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
Yeah, but with her?Evo said:I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
When the wealthy and the privileged get special consideration from our governmental entities, there is always good reason to point that out. If you are heir to billions, you can do just about anything you want in this country and people like yourself will make excuses about how "hard" it is for the wealthy to cope with their positions. I'm sorry, but "sycophant for spoiled billionaire heiresses" is not in my job description. I'm not rich, but my wife and I are comfortable and we have made every cent we own the old-fashioned way. You can bet your butt that if either of us had broken the law and then violated conditions of parole, we'd be doing the whole sentence just like any other citizen. Paris Hilton is not royalty, and she is no better than any other person in this country, and deserves no better treatment in the courts and penal system. Has the Constitution been rewritten recently?Mallignamius said:I think you're all quite capable of declining judgment. I also think there's a greater sense of respect you create thus.
You're saying you don't believe that's her real personality. Fine. If she's really a completely different person than how she acts on TV, then you're right that everyone is judging her too harshly. But on what do you base the belief that she's really a different person than how she acts on TV? Everything we know about her off-air personality fits with her on-air personality.Mallignamius said:Yes. I've watched it, thoroughly. And she's completely in character. It wouldn't be a television show if she didn't portray herself so.
Agreed - and from the way the news reports sound, she was able to get released by pouting. I wish I were a world-champion pouter...Evo said:When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
turbo-1 said:10-4. She pouted and they let her out, only to "serve" her time in luxury. "Jeeves, I'll have the filet mignon with truffles and steamed asparagus for dinner with a bottle of Mouton Rothschild 1945."
What?! No hollendaise? Next you'll be saying that she can't have beluga caviar on toast points as her appetizer! You are cruel and vindictive, and you don't appreciate how critically important this goddess is to our culture!Math Is Hard said:Perhaps withholding the hollandaise sauce would make the meal sufficiently austere?
turbo-1 said:When the wealthy and the privileged get special consideration from our governmental entities, there is always good reason to point that out. If you are heir to billions, you can do just about anything you want in this country and people like yourself will make excuses about how "hard" it is for the wealthy to cope with their positions. I'm sorry, but "sycophant for spoiled billionaire heiresses" is not in my job description. I'm not rich, but my wife and I are comfortable and we have made every cent we own the old-fashioned way. You can bet your butt that if either of us had broken the law and then violated conditions of parole, we'd be doing the whole sentence just like any other citizen. Paris Hilton is not royalty, and she is no better than any other person in this country, and deserves no better treatment in the courts and penal system. Has the Constitution been rewritten recently?
russ_watters said:You're saying you don't believe that's her real personality. Fine. If she's really a completely different person than how she acts on TV, then you're right that everyone is judging her too harshly. But on what do you base the belief that she's really a different person than how she acts on TV? Everything we know about her off-air personality fits with her on-air personality.
How old are you? 15? Rich kids get ready-made "careers" in acting music, etc, built by publicists and hacks every day. Jerry Lewis' son Gary absolutely could not sing, nor could he even approximate the correct pitch, so the Playboys were recruited as a full-blown band, and they dropped the little Lewis' vocals into the background so you couldn't even hear him (though if you listen to "This Diamond Ring" you can hear a whiney, nasally, off-key voice in the background). Still the band became a brief hit with lots of publicity and a gullible public, including pre-teen girls who were convinced that Gary could actually sing. It's pathetic. Paris Hilton's "talent" is not in acting, singing, perfumery, or any other productive enterprise. Her "talent" is being fantastically wealthy and keeping herself in the press with the help of publicists and their obedient papparazzi. And yes, the word "spoiled" should be permanently affixed to her name. She has taken no responsibility for her legal transgressions and expects no consequences. The wealth of her family practically ensures that her expectations will be met. She's a slug.Mallignamius said:And there's that word "spoiled" again. A working woman, who's richer than most everyone around us, is spoiled. Uh huh.
turbo-1 said:How old are you? 15? Rich kids get ready-made "careers" in acting music, etc, built by publicists and hacks every day. Jerry Lewis' son Gary absolutely could not sing, nor could he even approximate the correct pitch, so the Playboys were recruited as a full-blown band, and they dropped the little Lewis' vocals into the background so you couldn't even hear him (though if you listen to "This Diamond Ring" you can hear a whiney, nasally, off-key voice in the background). Still the band became a brief hit with lots of publicity and a gullible public, including pre-teen girls who were convinced that Gary could actually sing. It's pathetic. Paris Hilton's "talent" is not in acting, singing, perfumery, or any other productive enterprise. Her "talent" is being fantastically wealthy and keeping herself in the press with the help of publicists and their obedient papparazzi. And yes, the word "spoiled" should be permanently affixed to her name. She has taken no responsibility for her legal transgressions and expects no consequences. The wealth of her family practically ensures that her expectations will be met. She's a slug.
She turned herself into the jail. That's not taking responsibility for her legal transgressions?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_HiltonIn September 2006, she was arrested for driving under the influence and subsequently sentenced to 36 months probation and had her license suspended. In February 2007, she was stopped for driving at 70 mph in a 35 mph zone and charged with violating her probation. Hilton was sentenced to 45 days in jail, but only served three days, with the rest of the time reassigned to home confinement.
In November 2004, Hilton participated in Sean "Diddy" Combs' Citizen Change campaign to encourage youths to vote in the presidential election. She drew criticism after it was revealed she had neither voted nor registered to do so.
No. She turned herself in as you or I would have had to do (had we not been picked up by the police) to serve her term. When she was charged with violating the terms of her parole, she laid the blame off to other people (her underlings). She is a slug.Mallignamius said:I'm 33 years old. You can see my age by clicking my user name and reviewing my public profile. And that's irrelevant.
She turned herself into the jail. That's not taking responsibility for her legal transgressions?
Her "talent" will take her nowhere - she is buying careers based on her ability to pay for air-time.Mallignamius said:Judging her talent will be a peculiar debate, I think. I suppose people could suggest that her wealth got her into movies and television shows, and who knows why people would tune into watch her series, for more than one season, since she doesn't have any talent. Never mind her fan base, either. Maybe she's enjoying the attention she gets around her. Not that this would be abnormal.
You're not hearing envy from here. I worked my way through college playing frat parties, etc, fronting rock/blues bands, and I hosted open-mike blues jams at local pubs for many years after I had any real need of the money, in part because there are lots of young folks who need to play with experienced musicians so they can progress rapidly.Mallignamius said:It's not her fault that she's rich. She has every right to her money. For her wealth, no one can justify a complaint. I'm hearing only envy.
Pointing out the privileged treatment that a rich, spoiled, airhead, billionaire heiress has received is an exercise in good government. It doesn't matter that there are other things that demand our attention, and it does not deflect from the outrage that people should feel from this perversion of our legal system. I hate the "war on terror" being perpetrated against the Iraqis, and the restrictions on our freedoms authorized by the Patriot Act, and other political atrocities, and I advocate for freedom. I also advocate against the oligarchy, under which the wealthy operate under a different set of rules than the poor and middle-class. I'm sorry if you cannot appreciate this situation.Mallignamius said:Aren't there far worse people in the world to be crass about? Surely there must be one...
I propose that the mature response to her behavior and... wealth... is that if anyone doesn't like her, they should just ignore her. There are far more important things in the world to get upset over. A billionaire airhead who drove intoxicated isn't high on my list.
Astronuc said:Hilton had little choice - she would have been arrested otherwise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton
I concede that she did not take responsibility. I was wrong about that.turbo-1 said:No. She turned herself in as you or I would have had to do (had we not been picked up by the police) to serve her term. When she was charged with violating the terms of her parole, she laid the blame off to other people (her underlings). She is a slug.
Even if she was buying an acting career, it is a successful one. Getting a television show past one season is an accomplishment on its own.Her "talent" will take her nowhere - she is buying careers based on her ability to pay for air-time.
That was poorly expressed on my part. I didn't get the impression of envy from you. I intended a broader coverage, given what I read and hear at large.You're not hearing envy from here. I worked my way through college playing frat parties, etc, fronting rock/blues bands, and I hosted open-mike blues jams at local pubs for many years after I had any real need of the money, in part because there are lots of young folks who need to play with experienced musicians so they can progress rapidly.
I think this is very commendable of you.Pointing out the privileged treatment that a rich, spoiled, airhead, billionaire heiress has received is an exercise in good government. It doesn't matter that there are other things that demand our attention, and it does not deflect from the outrage that people should feel from this perversion of our legal system. I hate the "war on terror" being perpetrated against the Iraqis, and the restrictions on our freedoms authorized by the Patriot Act, and other political atrocities, and I advocate for freedom. I also advocate against the oligarchy, under which the wealthy operate under a different set of rules than the poor and middle-class. I'm sorry if you cannot appreciate this situation.
Really? You don't get a sense of entitlement from her conduct wrt this crime? What I see is a spoiled brat who got spanked for the first time ever and is finally showing some possibly genuine humility. Prior to actually realizing she might go to jail, she acted like she thought it was a joke.Mallignamius said:From interviews and off-air appearances, I don't get for a second the same kind of woman.
Right, so he's clearly different in person than on TV. I'm just not seeing that from Paris.Just like how Simon Cowell is seen as a jerk on TV, it's all about production notes. In a Playboy Magazine interview, he described how crazy his life is because people think what they see of him on American Idol, they expect the same treatment when they approach him at a restaurant or on the street. They sing and he comments how nice that was. And the strangers are surprised and were expecting him to cast an insult.
Yes, I do.But let's go with your description anyways, assigning that personality as genuine. I hope you don't really believe she'd intentionally goof off at every work place, and beg some stranger to take her in for the night.
She's sleeping in the beds her maids make for her. I think Tom Greene and Sasca Baron Cohen are jerks too. If they are actually nice people, they'll just have to accept the occupational hazard of acting like jerks on tv.No amount of money or expensive wine will ease those wounds.
I was responding to a comment about her work ethic and attitude. And this is what I meant when earlier I referred to how people have held her to ridiculous standards. I've lived far from a perfect life. But never would I accept a barrage of personal attacks from people who don't even know me. Because, I'll bet for 99% of them, they've been there, too.russ_watters said:Really? You don't get a sense of entitlement from her conduct wrt this crime? What I see is a spoiled brat who got spanked for the first time ever and is finally showing some possibly genuine humility.
Like many thousands of other people in the world.Yes, I do. She's sleeping in the beds her maids make for her.
edward said:Hilton doesn't have a a clue as to what "The Real World" is all about. She is merely white trash in a limo. A woman working as a server in a soup line has more redeeming value. Put her back in jail.
Mallignamius said:She once worked in a soup line in one of her TV episodes.