News Staying at the Hilton vs Going to Jail

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The discussion centers around Paris Hilton's recent legal troubles, including her probation violation and subsequent jail time, which many participants view as a reflection of her privileged status. Comments highlight the disparity in how wealthy individuals are treated within the legal system, with some arguing that Hilton's celebrity status allowed her to receive leniency, such as being released to house arrest after serving only three days of a 45-day sentence. Participants express mixed feelings about her fame, questioning why she garners so much attention compared to others and whether her lifestyle promotes unhealthy ideals. Some defend her, arguing that she works hard and has produced successful television content, while others criticize her as a "spoiled" individual who has not taken full responsibility for her actions. The conversation also touches on societal standards for celebrities, the nature of public judgment, and the broader implications of wealth and privilege in America.

What should be done about Paris Hilton?

  • Throw the book at her! Give her the maximum sentence!

    Votes: 43 93.5%
  • Let her off the hook. She's too pretty for a place like jail.

    Votes: 3 6.5%

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Poor Paris... the price she must pay for being fabulous.
 
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Letterman joked about it.

"She is going to be in a 12 X12 room with a toilet and a bed. There is also a small window, which is an upgrade at a Hilton."
 
I'd rather they force her to watch 'The Simple Life' marathon, Clockwork Orange style. Let the punishment fit the crime.
 
What is sad is that it made headlines - something about Paris is distraught! Oh, my! :rolleyes:

Well tough s**t. She violated probation, and she was probably given some slack because of who she is.

I don't know anyone who wouldn't be distraught about going to jail, which is basically a complete loss of one's independence.

I wouldn't say 'through the book at her', but she did the crime, now she's go to do the time.

I don't think her psychiatrist has been very effective up to now.
 
Why is Paris Hilton famous? There are plenty of other rich brats who don't get the attention that she does.
 
Why does the media pay such attention to highly dysfunctional people?
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Why is Paris Hilton famous? There are plenty of other rich brats who don't get the attention that she does.

Because she's particularly hot.
 
She's not though, she's just extremely skinny.
 
drankin said:
Because she's particularly hot.

If you like them rail thin and flat... sure.
 
  • #10
Funny, I look at her and certainly don't see someone who is hot... might like to slap her and tell her to get a job though. :biggrin:
 
  • #11
They can't really lock her up with all the other inmates. They'd tear her apart like a skinny goldfish in a tank full of pirhana. Although that would make an interesting reality tv show. I bet Fox could make millions.
 
  • #12
Her only real accomplishment is that she has proven that a person does not have to be poor to be white trash.
 
  • #13
Let her go... she didn't know any better.

I agree with Huckleberry. If they put her in jail, she will be torn to pieces.
We have to use discretion... not just follow rules like unintelligent robots.
 
  • #14
Where have you been? skinny = hot
When's the last time you saw a plus size model get any real attention?
 
  • #15
Smurf said:
She's not though, she's just extremely skinny.
No, I'd say she's mostly famous for being a bratty tramp. People watched her show for only one reason: it was funny to watch her be a bratty little *****.
 
  • #16
I'm sorry but she is skinny, I like female athletes myself.
 
  • #17
Surrealist said:
Where have you been? skinny = hot
When's the last time you saw a plus size model get any real attention?
Does ANS ring a bell? She was a pretty meaty lady, and she got more press than Paris. I'd take the Serena Williams type over Paris any day, though Anna Kournikova is cute and hot. Maybe the hottest ticket in the UK is the page 3 girl Keeley Hazell (spelling?). She's slim, but she's got a couple of things going for her.
 
  • #18
Well, it seems Paris has served her sentence. The original length of her sentence was supposed to be over 40 days. That was reduced to 20 something days. Now she has been released after spending only 3 days in jail.

Oh, I'm sure she has learned her lesson. :rolleyes:
 
  • #19
Only in America.
 
  • #20
What! Seriously. What!

Paris Hilton is not a model citizen and will suffer the consequences for her actions.

But these comments I read here and elsewhere are gross. It's disheartening to see damn near 99% of the population judge her so unfairly. Leave her alone.

I see and hear the People pointing their fingers at her, stroking tiny violins. They amass a gang of judges to pronounce her lower than all. And each time this happens, I roll my eyes, step up to the podium, and challenge the hater.

This woman has been held to ridiculous standards, like most celebrities and politicians. Whenever I dig a little bit, nearly every last human being who pronounces her a slutty little b**ch isn't any better at all, and often times quite worse for certain past actions. Has she become the opportunity for the guilty to pass the pepper?

She is not so evil or vile to warrant any ill words. Not a one! This "spoiled" woman works for a living. She produced her own television show that lasted more than one season. What's more, this program had her work with the public, and come into their homes. That's courageous.

Oh, people will point to her sex videos and purport that she released them intentionally, for publicity. So she's a slut. Or her lifestyle of superthin encourages other girls to live the unhealthy and dangerous lack of appetite. So she's a menace. Even her perfume: she never invented it, she has no right to have her name on it. She's a fraud.

They never stop, always looking for something to pounce on.

Leave her alone.
 
  • #21
Surrealist said:
I agree with Huckleberry. If they put her in jail, she will be torn to pieces.
We have to use discretion... not just follow rules like unintelligent robots.

You don't have to throw her in a maximum security prison full of murderer's and rapists. There are plenty of prisons that are a lot more comfortable.
 
  • #22
Huckleberry said:
Well, it seems Paris has served her sentence. The original length of her sentence was supposed to be over 40 days. That was reduced to 20 something days. Now she has been released after spending only 3 days in jail.
Not exactly - she was released to house arrest. She'll wear a tracking bracelet and can't go ouside her house for more than 1/2 hour per day. I don't agree with it either, but it isn't quite the same as being released outright.
 
  • #23
Mallignamius said:
This woman has been held to ridiculous standards, like most celebrities and politicians. Whenever I dig a little bit, nearly every last human being who pronounces her a slutty little b**ch isn't any better at all, and often times quite worse for certain past actions. Has she become the opportunity for the guilty to pass the pepper?

She is not so evil or vile to warrant any ill words. Not a one! This "spoiled" woman works for a living. She produced her own television show that lasted more than one season. What's more, this program had her work with the public, and come into their homes. That's courageous.
Have you ever watched said television show? People base their opinions of her primarily on her conduct on that show, and her behavior is sub-human. Seriously, if her last name were not Hilton, with her attitude and work ethic, she'd probably be a crack whore.
 
  • #24
Yes. I've watched it, thoroughly. And she's completely in character. It wouldn't be a television show if she didn't portray herself so. "The Professional Life?" Watch the Apprentice.

As for her work ethic, dude! She is extremely rich. She doesn't need to work. Yet she does. She acts, sings, entertains. And I hear that's hard work, less you want to judge all of our entertainers. Working when someone doesn't need to, that says a whole lot. I know lots of employers who would love to see that kind of attitude.
 
  • #25
Mallignamius said:
Oh, people will point to her sex videos and purport that she released them intentionally, for publicity. So she's a slut. Or her lifestyle of superthin encourages other girls to live the unhealthy and dangerous lack of appetite. So she's a menace. Even her perfume: she never invented it, she has no right to have her name on it. She's a fraud.
Dear Mallignamius,

Thanks for the support, but I think you can stop now.

Love, Paris
 
  • #26
russ_watters said:
Not exactly - she was released to house arrest. She'll wear a tracking bracelet and can't go ouside her house for more than 1/2 hour per day. I don't agree with it either, but it isn't quite the same as being released outright.
When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
 
  • #27
Evo said:
When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
10-4. She pouted and they let her out, only to "serve" her time in luxury. "Jeeves, I'll have the filet mignon with truffles and steamed asparagus for dinner with a bottle of Mouton Rothschild 1945." If she had been an ordinary citizen, she'd be doing her time. Who says the US is a democracy? We are oligarchy ruled by the wealthy, who do not have to submit to the rule of law.
 
  • #28
Evo said:
I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
Yeah, but with her?
 
  • #29
Deaf with sarcasm.

Oh look! A gilded butterfly!
 
  • #30
I think you're all quite capable of declining judgment. I also think there's a greater sense of respect you create thus.
 
  • #31
Mallignamius said:
I think you're all quite capable of declining judgment. I also think there's a greater sense of respect you create thus.
When the wealthy and the privileged get special consideration from our governmental entities, there is always good reason to point that out. If you are heir to billions, you can do just about anything you want in this country and people like yourself will make excuses about how "hard" it is for the wealthy to cope with their positions. I'm sorry, but "sycophant for spoiled billionaire heiresses" is not in my job description. I'm not rich, but my wife and I are comfortable and we have made every cent we own the old-fashioned way. You can bet your butt that if either of us had broken the law and then violated conditions of parole, we'd be doing the whole sentence just like any other citizen. Paris Hilton is not royalty, and she is no better than any other person in this country, and deserves no better treatment in the courts and penal system. Has the Constitution been rewritten recently?
 
  • #32
She's hot.
 
  • #33
Mallignamius said:
Yes. I've watched it, thoroughly. And she's completely in character. It wouldn't be a television show if she didn't portray herself so.
You're saying you don't believe that's her real personality. Fine. If she's really a completely different person than how she acts on TV, then you're right that everyone is judging her too harshly. But on what do you base the belief that she's really a different person than how she acts on TV? Everything we know about her off-air personality fits with her on-air personality.
 
  • #34
Evo said:
When you're under house arrest in a huge luxurious home that would be considered a resort by my standards and with a staff of servants. I would LOVE to be put under house arrest in her home for a few weeks and be catered to and pampered.
Agreed - and from the way the news reports sound, she was able to get released by pouting. I wish I were a world-champion pouter...
 
  • #35
turbo-1 said:
10-4. She pouted and they let her out, only to "serve" her time in luxury. "Jeeves, I'll have the filet mignon with truffles and steamed asparagus for dinner with a bottle of Mouton Rothschild 1945."

Perhaps withholding the hollandaise sauce would make the meal sufficiently austere?
 
  • #36
Math Is Hard said:
Perhaps withholding the hollandaise sauce would make the meal sufficiently austere?
What?! No hollendaise? Next you'll be saying that she can't have beluga caviar on toast points as her appetizer! You are cruel and vindictive, and you don't appreciate how critically important this goddess is to our culture! :devil:
 
  • #37
turbo-1 said:
When the wealthy and the privileged get special consideration from our governmental entities, there is always good reason to point that out. If you are heir to billions, you can do just about anything you want in this country and people like yourself will make excuses about how "hard" it is for the wealthy to cope with their positions. I'm sorry, but "sycophant for spoiled billionaire heiresses" is not in my job description. I'm not rich, but my wife and I are comfortable and we have made every cent we own the old-fashioned way. You can bet your butt that if either of us had broken the law and then violated conditions of parole, we'd be doing the whole sentence just like any other citizen. Paris Hilton is not royalty, and she is no better than any other person in this country, and deserves no better treatment in the courts and penal system. Has the Constitution been rewritten recently?

No. I have a relative who was recently released much earlier for a somewhat similar offense. Worse, there was some domestic violence involved. Thus, I would be quite willing to bet my butt accordingly.

No one has any right to judge her, the conditions for her early release, or her acquisition of wealth, other than the judge/jury who sentenced her. So yes, I will happily make those excuses in her defense. A billionaire has every right to be treated respectfully on our level. I've seen similar attacks on her honor long before any crimes had been committed. This makes me cynical that the fact she broke the law is even relevant. I lost some respect for her conduct, but I have no recourse but to leave it up to the system to deal with her. And I don't believe anyone here is in much position to put the system on trial for the results of her trial.

And there's that word "spoiled" again. A working woman, who's richer than most everyone around us, is spoiled. Uh huh.
 
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  • #38
I heard she got time off for good behavior. Apparently she behaved very very well. Charles Manson could take a lesson. Paris, lead the way.
 
  • #39
russ_watters said:
You're saying you don't believe that's her real personality. Fine. If she's really a completely different person than how she acts on TV, then you're right that everyone is judging her too harshly. But on what do you base the belief that she's really a different person than how she acts on TV? Everything we know about her off-air personality fits with her on-air personality.

From interviews and off-air appearances, I don't get for a second the same kind of woman. Production notes. Just like how Simon Cowell is seen as a jerk on TV, it's all about production notes. In a Playboy Magazine interview, he described how crazy his life is because people think what they see of him on American Idol, they expect the same treatment when they approach him at a restaurant or on the street. They sing and he comments how nice that was. And the strangers are surprised and were expecting him to cast an insult. As he explains, after a twelve hour work day of auditions, you can guess which ones end up on the twenty minutes at night. And wouldn't you know, he's not even acting.

But let's go with your description anyways, assigning that personality as genuine. I hope you don't really believe she'd intentionally goof off at every work place, and beg some stranger to take her in for the night.

She's a television producer. She has countless fans. And she has my support. Can you please try to look past the image you see on the television? She's not a bad person. She has faults, she's broken the law, and she's suffering even more from the attacks across the country. No amount of money or expensive wine will ease those wounds.
 
  • #40
Mallignamius said:
And there's that word "spoiled" again. A working woman, who's richer than most everyone around us, is spoiled. Uh huh.
How old are you? 15? Rich kids get ready-made "careers" in acting music, etc, built by publicists and hacks every day. Jerry Lewis' son Gary absolutely could not sing, nor could he even approximate the correct pitch, so the Playboys were recruited as a full-blown band, and they dropped the little Lewis' vocals into the background so you couldn't even hear him (though if you listen to "This Diamond Ring" you can hear a whiney, nasally, off-key voice in the background). Still the band became a brief hit with lots of publicity and a gullible public, including pre-teen girls who were convinced that Gary could actually sing. It's pathetic. Paris Hilton's "talent" is not in acting, singing, perfumery, or any other productive enterprise. Her "talent" is being fantastically wealthy and keeping herself in the press with the help of publicists and their obedient papparazzi. And yes, the word "spoiled" should be permanently affixed to her name. She has taken no responsibility for her legal transgressions and expects no consequences. The wealth of her family practically ensures that her expectations will be met. She's a slug.
 
  • #41
turbo-1 said:
How old are you? 15? Rich kids get ready-made "careers" in acting music, etc, built by publicists and hacks every day. Jerry Lewis' son Gary absolutely could not sing, nor could he even approximate the correct pitch, so the Playboys were recruited as a full-blown band, and they dropped the little Lewis' vocals into the background so you couldn't even hear him (though if you listen to "This Diamond Ring" you can hear a whiney, nasally, off-key voice in the background). Still the band became a brief hit with lots of publicity and a gullible public, including pre-teen girls who were convinced that Gary could actually sing. It's pathetic. Paris Hilton's "talent" is not in acting, singing, perfumery, or any other productive enterprise. Her "talent" is being fantastically wealthy and keeping herself in the press with the help of publicists and their obedient papparazzi. And yes, the word "spoiled" should be permanently affixed to her name. She has taken no responsibility for her legal transgressions and expects no consequences. The wealth of her family practically ensures that her expectations will be met. She's a slug.

I'm 33 years old. You can see my age by clicking my user name and reviewing my public profile. And that's irrelevant.

She turned herself into the jail. That's not taking responsibility for her legal transgressions?

Judging her talent will be a peculiar debate, I think. I suppose people could suggest that her wealth got her into movies and television shows, and who knows why people would tune into watch her series, for more than one season, since she doesn't have any talent. Never mind her fan base, either. Maybe she's enjoying the attention she gets around her. Not that this would be abnormal.

It's not her fault that she's rich. She has every right to her money. For her wealth, no one can justify a complaint. I'm hearing only envy.

Aren't there far worse people in the world to be crass about? Surely there must be one...

I propose that the mature response to her behavior and... wealth... is that if anyone doesn't like her, they should just ignore her. There are far more important things in the world to get upset over. A billionaire airhead who drove intoxicated isn't high on my list.
 
  • #42
She turned herself into the jail. That's not taking responsibility for her legal transgressions?

Hilton had little choice - she would have been arrested otherwise.

In September 2006, she was arrested for driving under the influence and subsequently sentenced to 36 months probation and had her license suspended. In February 2007, she was stopped for driving at 70 mph in a 35 mph zone and charged with violating her probation. Hilton was sentenced to 45 days in jail, but only served three days, with the rest of the time reassigned to home confinement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton#Drunk_Driving_Conviction

I was visiting a friend recently and while he was channel surfing, we caught a blurb about Hilton's latest reality show - something about Camp and Simple Life :rolleyes: Anyway she made a brilliant comment with something to the effect that "flirting increases the heart rate".

Civic involvement
In November 2004, Hilton participated in Sean "Diddy" Combs' Citizen Change campaign to encourage youths to vote in the presidential election. She drew criticism after it was revealed she had neither voted nor registered to do so.
:-p
 
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  • #43
Mallignamius said:
I'm 33 years old. You can see my age by clicking my user name and reviewing my public profile. And that's irrelevant.

She turned herself into the jail. That's not taking responsibility for her legal transgressions?
No. She turned herself in as you or I would have had to do (had we not been picked up by the police) to serve her term. When she was charged with violating the terms of her parole, she laid the blame off to other people (her underlings). She is a slug.

Mallignamius said:
Judging her talent will be a peculiar debate, I think. I suppose people could suggest that her wealth got her into movies and television shows, and who knows why people would tune into watch her series, for more than one season, since she doesn't have any talent. Never mind her fan base, either. Maybe she's enjoying the attention she gets around her. Not that this would be abnormal.
Her "talent" will take her nowhere - she is buying careers based on her ability to pay for air-time.

Mallignamius said:
It's not her fault that she's rich. She has every right to her money. For her wealth, no one can justify a complaint. I'm hearing only envy.
You're not hearing envy from here. I worked my way through college playing frat parties, etc, fronting rock/blues bands, and I hosted open-mike blues jams at local pubs for many years after I had any real need of the money, in part because there are lots of young folks who need to play with experienced musicians so they can progress rapidly.

Mallignamius said:
Aren't there far worse people in the world to be crass about? Surely there must be one...

I propose that the mature response to her behavior and... wealth... is that if anyone doesn't like her, they should just ignore her. There are far more important things in the world to get upset over. A billionaire airhead who drove intoxicated isn't high on my list.
Pointing out the privileged treatment that a rich, spoiled, airhead, billionaire heiress has received is an exercise in good government. It doesn't matter that there are other things that demand our attention, and it does not deflect from the outrage that people should feel from this perversion of our legal system. I hate the "war on terror" being perpetrated against the Iraqis, and the restrictions on our freedoms authorized by the Patriot Act, and other political atrocities, and I advocate for freedom. I also advocate against the oligarchy, under which the wealthy operate under a different set of rules than the poor and middle-class. I'm sorry if you cannot appreciate this situation.
 
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  • #45
turbo-1 said:
No. She turned herself in as you or I would have had to do (had we not been picked up by the police) to serve her term. When she was charged with violating the terms of her parole, she laid the blame off to other people (her underlings). She is a slug.
I concede that she did not take responsibility. I was wrong about that.

Her "talent" will take her nowhere - she is buying careers based on her ability to pay for air-time.
Even if she was buying an acting career, it is a successful one. Getting a television show past one season is an accomplishment on its own.

You're not hearing envy from here. I worked my way through college playing frat parties, etc, fronting rock/blues bands, and I hosted open-mike blues jams at local pubs for many years after I had any real need of the money, in part because there are lots of young folks who need to play with experienced musicians so they can progress rapidly.
That was poorly expressed on my part. I didn't get the impression of envy from you. I intended a broader coverage, given what I read and hear at large.

Pointing out the privileged treatment that a rich, spoiled, airhead, billionaire heiress has received is an exercise in good government. It doesn't matter that there are other things that demand our attention, and it does not deflect from the outrage that people should feel from this perversion of our legal system. I hate the "war on terror" being perpetrated against the Iraqis, and the restrictions on our freedoms authorized by the Patriot Act, and other political atrocities, and I advocate for freedom. I also advocate against the oligarchy, under which the wealthy operate under a different set of rules than the poor and middle-class. I'm sorry if you cannot appreciate this situation.
I think this is very commendable of you.

Yet, as I wrote earlier, I've seen similar attacks on her honor long before any crimes had been committed. This makes me cynical that the fact she broke the law is even relevant. I lost some respect for her conduct, but I have no recourse but to leave it up to the system to deal with her. And I don't believe anyone here is in much position to put the system on trial for the results of her trial.
 
  • #46
Mallignamius said:
From interviews and off-air appearances, I don't get for a second the same kind of woman.
Really? You don't get a sense of entitlement from her conduct wrt this crime? What I see is a spoiled brat who got spanked for the first time ever and is finally showing some possibly genuine humility. Prior to actually realizing she might go to jail, she acted like she thought it was a joke.
Just like how Simon Cowell is seen as a jerk on TV, it's all about production notes. In a Playboy Magazine interview, he described how crazy his life is because people think what they see of him on American Idol, they expect the same treatment when they approach him at a restaurant or on the street. They sing and he comments how nice that was. And the strangers are surprised and were expecting him to cast an insult.
Right, so he's clearly different in person than on TV. I'm just not seeing that from Paris.
But let's go with your description anyways, assigning that personality as genuine. I hope you don't really believe she'd intentionally goof off at every work place, and beg some stranger to take her in for the night.
Yes, I do.
No amount of money or expensive wine will ease those wounds.
She's sleeping in the beds her maids make for her. I think Tom Greene and Sasca Baron Cohen are jerks too. If they are actually nice people, they'll just have to accept the occupational hazard of acting like jerks on tv.
 
  • #47
russ_watters said:
Really? You don't get a sense of entitlement from her conduct wrt this crime? What I see is a spoiled brat who got spanked for the first time ever and is finally showing some possibly genuine humility.
I was responding to a comment about her work ethic and attitude. And this is what I meant when earlier I referred to how people have held her to ridiculous standards. I've lived far from a perfect life. But never would I accept a barrage of personal attacks from people who don't even know me. Because, I'll bet for 99% of them, they've been there, too.

And there's that word, "spoiled," again. I don't understand why anyone so spoiled would choose to work if they are rich enough to never work for the rest of their lives.

Yes, I do. She's sleeping in the beds her maids make for her.
Like many thousands of other people in the world.

Leave her alone. Let it go.
 
  • #48
Hilton doesn't have a a clue as to what "The Real World" is all about. She is merely white trash in a limo. A woman working as a server in a soup line has more redeeming value. Put her back in jail.
 
  • #49
edward said:
Hilton doesn't have a a clue as to what "The Real World" is all about. She is merely white trash in a limo. A woman working as a server in a soup line has more redeeming value. Put her back in jail.

She once worked in a soup line in one of her TV episodes.
 
  • #50
Mallignamius said:
She once worked in a soup line in one of her TV episodes.
:smile:

You're yanking our chains, aren't you. :biggrin:
 

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