I Stresses Caused By Deformation For Bending

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Applying a moment to a beam can induce radial stresses in addition to normal stresses, particularly when the beam is bent into an arch. While traditional beam bending formulas provide approximations, they do not fully account for the complexities of stress distribution in curved beams, which exhibit hyperbolic stress patterns. Radial stresses, although often small compared to circumferential stresses, can become significant in thin cross-sections or plates. The discussion emphasizes that understanding these additional stresses is crucial for accurate analysis and design. Overall, the interaction of deformation and stress in bending beams is a common and important consideration in structural engineering.
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I was wondering if the deformation of a bending beam would lead to normal stress perpendicular to the applied stress and if deformation causing stress is common and important to consider.
Hi. Say you apply a moment on a beam and bend it into an arch. If you take a free body diagram of a section of the beam you would need normal stresses in the radial direction to balance the forces:
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I have never seen this brought up before though -- is it correct logic? Also, is this sort of situation where deformation leads to other stresses common? Thanks!
 
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From your diagram, I don't see why you would need forces in the y-direction. It seems to me, the y components of the loadings at the ends balance out.
 
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From your diagram, I don't see why you would need forces in the y-direction. It seems to me, the y components of the loadings at the ends balance out.

As far as I could tell, OP is making a slice through the beam so as to consider the top half or so of the beam in isolation, in which case the loading at either end is exclusively in the negative ##\hat{y}## direction. Then, wouldn't internal stress forces need to be applied on the upper section by the lower section (and vice versa) in order to satisfy static equilibrium?
 
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Curved beams have a hyperbolic stress distribution, where straight beams have a linear stress distribution. The published analyses of curved beam stresses do not include stresses in the radial direction. Search terms bending curved beams brings up a number of good sites.

A close look at a stress element in a curved beam shows that radial stress is needed to balance the normal stress. More advanced analyses include these radial stresses. Search term bending curved beam stress element brings up this hit: http://courses.washington.edu/me354a/chap4.pdf, from which the following is quoted:

It is worth noting that due to the curvature of the beam a compressive radial stress (acting in the direction of r) will also be developed. Typically the radial stress is small compared to the circumferential stress and can be neglected, especially if the cross section of the member is a solid section. Sometimes, such as the case of thin plates or thin cross sections (e.g., I-beam), this radial stress can become large relative to the circumferential stress.

The OP has the right idea, but these radial stresses are not on the surface of the beam. They show up on a stress element inside the beam.
 
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person123 said:
Summary:: I was wondering if the deformation of a bending beam would lead to normal stress perpendicular to the applied stress and if deformation causing stress is common and important to consider.
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I have never seen this brought up before though -- is it correct logic? Also, is this sort of situation where deformation leads to other stresses common? Thanks!
This type of stress is common and extremely important.
It can be combined with other loads (shear, compression, tension) that act simultaneously on the bending element, inducing more complicated internal reactions.

Please, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bending

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The usual beam bending formulas are not the exact solution to the stress equilibrium equation. They are only a Strength of Materials approximation to the full solution of the theory of elasticity equations. In the direction normal to the beam, there are Poisson ratio effects that come in, that give rise to the normal stress effect (spread over the long length of the beam) to balance the forces you are referring to. For the complete exact treatment of the problem, see Timoschenko, theory of elasticity.
 
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jrmichler said:
Curved beams have a hyperbolic stress distribution, where straight beams have a linear stress distribution.
In what way is it hyperbolic? One thing I can imagine is taking the magnitude of the largest traction vector on any surface. Then going across the beam, that value varies hyperbolically. Is this what that means?
 
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