Striations in cathode ray discharge

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of striations observed in cathode ray discharges, exploring how factors such as voltage and pressure influence their characteristics, including size, color, number, and spacing. Participants share their experimental observations and seek to understand the underlying processes involved.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes producing striations at low voltage (under 15kV) and pressure (10 - 100 Pa), describing them as thin, compact, and numerous, contrasting with thicker, fewer striations seen online.
  • Another participant suggests that audio frequency oscillation in the system might influence the observed striations.
  • A different participant explains that the striations are a genuine effect caused by ionization of low-pressure gas, detailing the role of accelerated electrons and the resulting 'Crookes dark spaces' and fluorescence in the glass walls of the tube.
  • One participant proposes that reducing pressure increases the spacing of striations due to an increase in the mean free path.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the causes and characteristics of striations, with no consensus reached on the underlying mechanisms or the effects of different experimental conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of their observations, and assumptions regarding the effects of voltage, pressure, and system noise remain unexamined.

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What causes these striations? How does the voltage and pressure of the discharge affect the size, color, number, and spacing of the striations? I have produced a discharge with striations with fairly low voltage (under 15kv) and pressure 10 - 100pa, and the striations are very thin, compact, and numerous. Most of the striations I see online are very thick and few in number. This is also a noisy dc supply so that may affect things as well.

I am having a difficult time finding information on the process that causes this.
 
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Plat said:
View attachment 94031 What causes these striations? How does the voltage and pressure of the discharge affect the size, color, number, and spacing of the striations? I have produced a discharge with striations with fairly low voltage (under 15kv) and pressure 10 - 100pa, and the striations are very thin, compact, and numerous. Most of the striations I see online are very thick and few in number. This is also a noisy dc supply so that may affect things as well.

I am having a difficult time finding information on the process that causes this.
I think it might be audio frequency oscillation in the system.
 
Plat said:
View attachment 94031 What causes these striations? How does the voltage and pressure of the discharge affect the size, color, number, and spacing of the striations? I have produced a discharge with striations with fairly low voltage (under 15kv) and pressure 10 - 100pa, and the striations are very thin, compact, and numerous. Most of the striations I see online are very thick and few in number. This is also a noisy dc supply so that may affect things as well.

I am having a difficult time finding information on the process that causes this.

This is a genuine effect caused by ionisation of the low pressure gas. Electrons are accelerated from the cathode (the upper electrode) the 'dark spaces' are where electrons are being accelerated, they collide with gas molecules which are ionised and recombination results in the glow. The dark spaces are known as 'Crookes dark spaces'...the scientist associated with these experiments. At very low pressure electrons from the cathode are able to reach the glass walls of the tube and fluorescence occurs in the glass..this is the basis of fluorescent light tubes (they are coated to increase fluorescence)
 
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I think you will find that, as the pressure is reduced, the spacing of the striations will increase - because the mean free path increases.
 

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