Symmetry of Quantum vs Classical Physics Systems

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The discussion highlights the fundamental differences in symmetry between quantum mechanical (QM) systems and classical mechanical (CM) systems, particularly focusing on angular momentum and time reversal. In classical mechanics, rotational invariance leads to the conservation of angular momentum, while in quantum mechanics, angular momentum is defined in a specific direction. Additionally, the discussion notes that time reversal in QM introduces unique characteristics, such as spin 1/2 particles acquiring a negative sign upon certain transformations. Despite these differences, both systems share similarities in their treatment of symmetries, often constructed through analogies with Hamiltonian mechanics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles, specifically angular momentum.
  • Familiarity with classical mechanics and Hamiltonian dynamics.
  • Knowledge of symmetry operations in physics.
  • Basic grasp of time reversal symmetry in quantum systems.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the concept of angular momentum in quantum mechanics, focusing on its directional properties.
  • Explore time reversal symmetry in quantum mechanics, particularly its implications for spin 1/2 particles.
  • Investigate Hamiltonian mechanics and its role in both classical and quantum systems.
  • Read advanced texts on symmetry in physics, such as "Symmetry and the Standard Model" by Matthew Schwartz.
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Physicists, students of quantum mechanics, and anyone interested in the comparative study of classical and quantum systems will benefit from this discussion.

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I read a introductory book on symmetry of physics system. The author says symmetry of quantum mechanical system is VERY different from that of classical system. I just wonder what's the main difference?
 
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KFC said:
I read a introductory book on symmetry of physics system. The author says symmetry of quantum mechanical system is VERY different from that of classical system. I just wonder what's the main difference?

I'd say the main difference is in something like angular momentum. Rotational invariance leads to conservation of angular momentum, but in QM you only know the angular momentum in one direction. There might also be a difference in time reversal, where spin 1/2 particles pick up a negative sign when performed twice or something, but I'm not sure about this.

Other than that, CM and QM are similar with regards to symmetries, and usually QM is constructed from analogy with Hamilton's CM. In CM, symmetry means the Hamiltonian is unchanged by the flow generated by a canonical generator of the symmetry - but there is a dual relationship that says that this implies that the generator is unchanged by the flow generated by time translation (which happens to be the Hamiltonian). So basically if the flow created by a generator does not change the generator of the flow of time, then the flow of time does not change the generator. Hence the generator is conserved. This is true in CM and QM.
 
which book?
 

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