Tangential Force Required to Slow Cylinder to a rest?

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The problem involves a grinding wheel in a paper factory, specifically focusing on the tangential force required to bring the wheel to rest after a power outage. The subject area includes rotational dynamics and the concepts of angular acceleration and force.

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  • Participants discuss finding angular acceleration using rotational kinematics, questioning the variables involved, and exploring the relationship between torque and force at the rim of the cylinder.

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Participants have provided various approaches to calculate the tangential force, including discussions on the moment of inertia and the correct application of equations. There is ongoing exploration of the calculations and the significance of using the correct formulas.

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There is a mention of significant figures and the need for clarity in defining the moment of inertia for different shapes, indicating a focus on precision in calculations.

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Homework Statement


a)-The massive grinder for wood-pulp in a newsprint paper factory, which can render about a half Tonne of wood into a thin soup in less than a minute, is essentially a stone cylinder of radius 0.900 m and mass about 6.00 Tonnes. An enormous motor spins this cylinder on its axis while hydraulic cylinders press the pocket of wood against its rim. A typical rotational speed for the motor is 62.0 rpm (rotations per minute). Suppose that while the paper plant is in full operation there is a power outage due to an ice-storm. How much energy (in J) is available to grind wood just from the rotational kinetic energy of the grinding wheel?

I HAVE ALREADY SOLVED PART a,
NEED HELP WITH B:


b)-If the grinding wheel comes to rest in 80.0 ms what is the tangential force (in N) that the wood presents to the grinding wheel if this force is constant during the slowing down?



Homework Equations



KE = 1/2Iw2
F = ∆p/∆t ...?
t = Fr
∆w/∆t = α

The Attempt at a Solution


honestly don't know where to start.
 
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Hi ObviousManiac! :smile:
ObviousManiac said:
b)-If the grinding wheel comes to rest in 80.0 ms what is the tangential force (in N) that the wood presents to the grinding wheel if this force is constant during the slowing down?

First find the angular acceleration, using the standard constant acceleration equations but with θ ω and α instead of s v and a.

Then find the torque that produces that angular acceleration, and so find the force at the rim. :wink:
 
Silly question - what is my θ?
 
there's no θ in this particular question, only the angular equivalent of u v a and t :wink:
 
to find α, could I not do this?:

wf = wi + αt

wf = 0, so

-wi = αt

(where wi = 62 rpm/60 sec * 2π rad = 6.49 rad/s)

so

- 6.49 = α(.08)

α = -81.125 rad/s2
 
looks good! :smile:

and so the tangential force is … ? :wink:
 
T = mr2a

= 6000(.92)(-81.125)

= -394267.5

rF = -394267.5

.9F = -394267.5

F = -394267.5/.9

F = - 438075 N

... Is this correct?
 
ObviousManiac said:
T = mr2a

= 6000(.92)(-81.125)

No, that's the wrong I.

Also, it would be easier (and quicker, and less likely to lead to mistakes) if you wrote all your equations at the start …

in this case, Fr = τ = Iα, so F = Iα/r :wink:
 
isn't I = mr2 ?

So would it be

F = Iα/r

F = mr2α/r = mrα

?
 
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yes :smile:, except I for a solid cylinder isn't mr2

you need to learn the moment of inertia of every common geometrical shape :wink:
 
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OH

I didn't even think about that... wow I'm really dropping the ball tonight.

So:

I = .5mr^2

F = Ia/r

f = .5mr^2a/r = .5mra

= (6000)(.9)(-81.125)/2

= -219037.5 N
 
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