Temperature and internal energy question

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To determine the temperature from internal energy (U), volume (V), and number of moles (N), additional information about the gas's initial state is needed, such as pressure or temperature. The relationship between internal energy and temperature is given by the formula U = (3/2)nRT for ideal gases. The heat capacity of a gas varies with temperature, complicating direct calculations. For ranking temperatures of different gases based on their internal energy, the formula U = (3/2)PV can be applied alongside the Ideal Gas Law. Understanding these relationships is essential for accurately finding temperature in thermodynamic calculations.
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How can I find the temperature of something if I'm give the internal energy(U), volume(V), and number of moles(N). I thought it'd just be pv = nrt but I am not sure what to do with the internal energy or how to use it with pressure. Thanks.
 
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synx said:
How can I find the temperature of something if I'm give the internal energy(U), volume(V), and number of moles(N). I thought it'd just be pv = nrt but I am not sure what to do with the internal energy or how to use it with pressure. Thanks.
I think you will need more than the internal energy, volume and number of moles even if it is an ideal gas. You will need to know an initial state (ie. P,V, n or V, T, n or P, T, n or P, V, T) and the change in internal energy and volume. This is because the heat capacity of a gas is somewhat temperature dependent so although dU = nC_vdT it is not necessarily true that U = nC_vT.

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It's just a ranking task that says Rank from greatest to least the temperatures of the ideal gases below that contain various amounts of internal energy and vorious number of molecules in various volumes." Each case has different internal energy, number of molecules, and volume.
 
You need to use the formula U=3/2nkT. It can also be useful in forms like U=3/2NRT and U=3/2PV by using the Ideal Gas Law
 
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