Temperature change in Celsius from Fahrenheit value

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The discussion revolves around converting a temperature change from Fahrenheit to Celsius, specifically a change of 13.7 degrees Fahrenheit. Participants are exploring the relationship between the two temperature scales using the conversion formula.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the temperature conversion formula and the arithmetic involved in calculating the change in Celsius. There are attempts to clarify the correct use of parentheses in the equations and to identify errors in the original calculations.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided feedback on the original poster's attempts, suggesting that the cancellation of certain terms simplifies the problem. There is acknowledgment of a shortcut involving the ratio of temperature changes between the two scales. While some participants express confidence in the revised approach, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration and the types of solutions discussed.

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Homework Statement


a) One day, the temperature outside changed by 13.7 degrees on a Fahrenheit thermometer. By how much did the temperature change on a Celsius thermometer?


Homework Equations


F = (9/5)C + 32

The Attempt at a Solution


F2 - F1 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 + 32 -(9/5)C1 + 32 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 - (9/5)C1 = -50.3
(9/5)(C2 - C1) = -50.3
(C2 - C1) = -27.94444444

I thought change in anything was the difference between the final and initial values. Here I needed Celsius change so I used the difference in Conversion formula to relate Fahrenheit to Celsius. Any help with figuring out what I did wrong is appreciated!
 
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(a+b) - (c+d) = a + b - c - d, not a + b - c + d !
 
rubenhero said:

Homework Statement


a) One day, the temperature outside changed by 13.7 degrees on a Fahrenheit thermometer. By how much did the temperature change on a Celsius thermometer?


Homework Equations


F = (9/5)C + 32

The Attempt at a Solution


F2 - F1 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 + 32 -((9/5)C1 + 32) = 13.7
(9/5)C2 - (9/5)C1 = -50.3
(9/5)(C2 - C1) = -50.3
(C2 - C1) = -27.94444444

I thought change in anything was the difference between the final and initial values. Here I needed Celsius change so I used the difference in Conversion formula to relate Fahrenheit to Celsius. Any help with figuring out what I did wrong is appreciated!
There is a short cut to this. 9 Fahrenheit degrees cover the same temperature span as 5 Celsius degrees. So you could simply take 5/9 of 13.7. This shows that your answer must be wrong.

To see where you went wrong, see the parentheses in Red above.
 
rubenhero said:

Homework Statement


a) One day, the temperature outside changed by 13.7 degrees on a Fahrenheit thermometer. By how much did the temperature change on a Celsius thermometer?


Homework Equations


F = (9/5)C + 32

The Attempt at a Solution


F2 - F1 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 + 32 -(9/5)C1 + 32 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 - (9/5)C1 = -50.3
(9/5)(C2 - C1) = -50.3
(C2 - C1) = -27.94444444

I thought change in anything was the difference between the final and initial values. Here I needed Celsius change so I used the difference in Conversion formula to relate Fahrenheit to Celsius. Any help with figuring out what I did wrong is appreciated!

You left out some brackets - simplest arithmetic error!

F2 - F1 = 13.7
(9/5)C2 + 32 -{(9/5)C1 + 32} = 13.7
(9/5)C2 - (9/5)C1 = 13.7
(9/5)(C2 - C1) = 13.7
(C2 - C1) = you work out.

Note: - I used a higher level of parentheses {} since the lowest level () was already in use.
 
Thank you phyzguy and SammyS for responding. After taking into account about what you said, I realized that the 32s cancel themselves and ended up only needing to take 5/9 of 13.7. I got an answer of 7.61 Celsius degrees. Is this the correct?
 
rubenhero said:
Thank you phyzguy and SammyS for responding. After taking into account about what you said, I realized that the 32s cancel themselves and ended up only needing to take 5/9 of 13.7. I got an answer of 7.61 Celsius degrees. Is this the correct?

That looks much better !
 

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