Tension in a Pulley System: Solving for Work Done by the Tension Force

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In a pulley system with two masses, m and M, where M is greater than m, the work done by the tension force in lifting mass m a distance h is calculated using the equation W = T*h. The tension T is derived from the forces acting on mass m, leading to the equation T = ma + mg, which accounts for both the net force and gravitational force. However, an alternative perspective suggests T = mg - ma, which raises confusion about the direction of motion. Clarification indicates that both equations can be valid depending on the context of the forces acting on the system. Understanding the correct application of these equations is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


Hi. My question is only regarding the early step in this problem that solves for tension. Here is the question:
"In a pulley system where masses m and M are connected by a rope over a massless and frictionless pulley, find the work done by the tension force in lifting mass m a distance h. Note that M > m and both masses are at the same height above the ground. The system is initially held at rest, and is then released."

Homework Equations


(T = tension, s = displacement)
W = F * s, here W = T*h


The Attempt at a Solution


So, I have already solved for acceleration of mass M and the v of m after it travels a distance h in another part of the problem, and I thought that I was fine with this one, but: I was summing forces to get the net force on m, which I thought would be T + (-mg) = ma. By following this, I said that T = ma + mg. That made sense to me because 'ma' is the net force, and 'ma' plus the amount of force subtracted by gravity is the total tension of the rope. However, when I finished the problem and checked it, the online review book said that Tension = mg - ma, and I am not sure why that is. Wouldn't that make Tension less than the force of gravity, and so mass m would go down instead of up?
 
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The book may have made an error distinguishing between M and m.. You are correct that T = ma + mg.
It is also correct by looking at the forces acting on M that
T = Mg - Ma

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