Tension in a string simple pendulum

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The discussion revolves around a simple pendulum problem involving the calculation of tension in the string at different points in its oscillation. The original poster presents their calculations and seeks verification of their results regarding the maximum tension experienced by the pendulum bob.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the tension using centripetal force relationships and questions their result compared to an expected value. Other participants inquire about the assumptions made regarding the components of tension and its relationship to centripetal force.

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Participants are exploring the validity of the original poster's assumptions and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the position of maximum tension in the pendulum's swing, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster's calculations are based on specific values for mass and gravitational acceleration, but there may be uncertainties regarding the assumptions made about tension at different points in the pendulum's motion.

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Hi Guys
I obtained a slighty different answer. Can anyone kindly verify where I am going wrong? The question is stated thus:
A simple pendulum is of length 0.5m and the bob has mass 0.25kg. Find the greatest value for the tension in the string when the pendulum is set in oscillation by drawing the bob to one side through an angle of 5 degrees and releasing from rest. Explain where in the cycle the tension is greatest.

Te relationship for centripetal force involved is
T-mg = mv^2/r
Resolving the tension in the string into its components,
Tcos theta = mg
Tsin theta =mv^2/r
Dividing the above, we obtain
tan theta =v^2/gr
So, v^2 = gr tan theta
I substituted this value and other values for mass and g. I obtained 2.7N as my final answer. But it appears to be 2.5N. Any clarification will be appreciated. Thanks.

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aurao2003 said:
Te relationship for centripetal force involved is
T-mg = mv^2/r
Resolving the tension in the string into its components,
Tcos theta = mg
Tsin theta =mv^2/r
Dividing the above, we obtain
tan theta =v^2/gr
So, v^2 = gr tan theta
I substituted this value and other values for mass and g. I obtained 2.7N as my final answer. But it appears to be 2.5N. Any clarification will be appreciated. Thanks.

When you say Tsin theta =mv^2/r, do you mean to imply that the horizontal component of tension is the centripetal force?
 
Villyer said:
When you say Tsin theta =mv^2/r, do you mean to imply that the horizontal component of tension is the centripetal force?

Yes. That is my assumption. I have a feeling it may not be valid. Is tension equal to the weight at the point of rest?
 
Your are calculating the tension T at its highest position.
Maximum tension is at its lowest position.
At this position, the PE at the top is converted to maximum kinetic energy.
Find this velocity from conservation of energy.
 

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