The Entropy Change Argon in a non-isothermal process expansion.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the entropy change of Argon during a non-isothermal expansion and compression process. The problem involves two scenarios: one where Argon expands while being heated, and another where it is compressed and cooled.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of assuming Argon behaves as an ideal gas and question the validity of this assumption given the varying conditions of temperature and volume.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the number of moles of Argon based on the initial state parameters. Others have pointed out the need to clarify whether pressure remains constant during the process, leading to a realization about the assumptions made regarding the process type.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the assumption of ideal gas behavior and the constancy of pressure during the expansion and compression processes. The problem statement does not provide explicit details on these aspects, which has led to varied interpretations among participants.

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Homework Statement


a) Calculate the entropy change when Argon, at 25oC and 0.101 MPa pressure, in
a container of volume 0.5 litre is allowed to expand to 1.0 litre and is simultaneously
heated to 100oC.
b) Calculate the entropy change when the same initial sample is compressed to 0.05
litre and cooled to –25oC.
(Hint: choose a suitable path or combination of successive paths to move between the
two states described )

Homework Equations


Delta S =nC[tex]_{}V[/tex]ln(T[tex]_{}2[/tex]-T[tex]_{}1[/tex]) + nRln(V[tex]_{}2[/tex]/V[tex]_{}1[/tex])

Where since Argon is monotonic C[tex]_{}V[/tex]=3R/2

The Attempt at a Solution


But the question does not state the value of n and since this is not an ideal gas I cannot work it out.
 
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Oh, c'mon :P. If you are allowed to assume, that argon is an ideal gas, and pV=nRT applies, read your first sentence again. Y~ou've got temperature, pressure and volume. You might want to use it to calculate n...
 
Except you get different values of n at the two different values of temperature and corresponding volume.
So you can't assume ideality...
 
There is only one state where you are given pressure, temperature, and volume: the initial state.
 
But it doesn't say that the pressure remains constant, or at least you didn't write it.
You've got: p1=0.101 MPa, T1=25C, V1=0.5l and T2=100C, V2=1l. You need to assume that the pressure has changed.

Edit: Dammit, Mapes was faster :P.
 
Ohhhh It's suddenly clicked!
I was assuming it was isobaric even though the question doesn't actually suggest it is...
Wow I feel stupid =p
Cheers for your help
 

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