The integral of the taylor expansion of any expression

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ok .lets say the expression we have is ex

the taylor expansion becomes 1+x+x2/2+...

integrating becomes x+x2/2+x3/6+...+c

so how do we know that c = 1? for it to become back to ex

becos it is said that integral of ex = ex

do we just let x be 0 to find c = 1? does it work for all expressions?

thanks a lot!
 
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hi quietrain! :smile:
quietrain said:
becos it is said that integral of ex = ex

yeees … but when we say "this is the integral of that", it's always understood that one mentally adds the words "plus a constant" :wink:
 
hi tim, so how do we know that the constant is 1?

is it just by letting x = 0?

does it work for all expressions? because i was told it won't work for sinx
 
We don't! I have no idea where you got the impression that the constant of integration had to be 1- it doesn't unless you are given some additional information about the integral. Again, the (indefinite) integral or "anti-derivative" of any function is determined only up to an additive constant.

\int e^x dx= e^x+ C.
In terms of the Taylor series
\int (1+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot)dx= C+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot
where C can be any number.

Since you know that e^x= 1+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot for that to "come back to e^x", obviously, C would have to be 1 but, again, \int e^x dx= e^x+ C, not just e^x.

And, yes, integration of a power series, term by term, inside its radius of convergence (which for e^x, sin(x), cos(x), etc. is "all x") always works.

(I would disagree with tiny time that "one mentally adds the words "plus a constant". One should add it explicitely! "It is said that the integral of e^x is e^x" is simply wrong." What is said, or should be said, is "the integral of e^x is e^x+ C where C can be any number.")
 
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HallsofIvy said:
We don't! I have no idea where you got the impression that the constant of integration had to be 1- it doesn't unless you are given some additional information about the integral. Again, the (indefinite) integral or "anti-derivative" of any function is determined only up to an additive constant.

\int e^x dx= e^x+ C.
In terms of the Taylor series
\int (1+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot)dx= C+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot
where C can be any number.

Since you know that e^x= 1+ x+ x^2/2+ x^3/6+ \cdot\cdot\cdot for that to "come back to e^x", obviously, C would have to be 1 but, again, \int e^x dx= e^x+ C, not just e^x.

And, yes, integration of a power series, term by term, inside its radius of convergence (which for e^x, sin(x), cos(x), etc. is "all x") always works.

(I would disagree with tiny time that "one mentally adds the words "plus a constant". One should add it explicitely! "It is said that the integral of e^x is e^x" is simply wrong." What is said, or should be said, is "the integral of e^x is e^x+ C where C can be any number.")

ah i see thanks a lot!
 
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