Theorems Related to Max Sums & Perimeters/Areas of Circles

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The discussion focuses on two mathematical problems: finding the maximum sum of fractions involving positive integers and determining the maximum perimeter and area of inscribed shapes in a circle. The first problem has been solved, with a proposed answer of 41/42 for the maximum sum. For the second problem, it is suggested that the maximum area of an inscribed quadrilateral is achieved with a square, using the sine function to calculate areas based on angles. Participants express uncertainty about the second problem's solvability, but provide methods for approaching it. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges and strategies in solving these geometric and algebraic questions.
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I need to know the names of theorems related to the following two problems:

1. What is the maximum sum less than 1 but more than 0 that can be formed from \frac{1}{p} + \frac{1}{q} + \frac{1}{r}, where p, q and r are positive integers?

2. What is the maximum perimeter and area of an inscribed quadrilateral and triangle in a circle with a fixed radius r?
 
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I realize that there may be no established theorems for the above 2 problems, so can anyone please suggest how I can go about solving them?
 
OK, I'm going to shamelessly bump this. *BUMP*

Can someone tell me if it is even possible to solve the second problem? The first one has been solved already.
 
Hi,
I am trying to find the maximum perimeter an inscribed quadrilateral, but I haven't succeeded yet.
About the maximum area an inscribed quadrilateral, I suggest you using:
S_{ABC} = \frac{1}{2} \times AB \times AC \times \sin{BAC}
Call A, B, C, D the points on the circle.
Try to figure out the S_{AOB}, S_{BOC}, S_{COD}, S_{DOA} using the above function.
OA = OB = OC = OD = R
And \sin{90} = 1 \mbox{is max}
So an inscribed quadrilateral has the max erea is the inscribed square.
That's it.
Hope it help, :smile:
PS: Can you give me the answer for number 1?
Is it
\frac{41}{42}?
Thanks,
Viet Dao,
 
VietDao29 said:
PS: Can you give me the answer for number 1?
Is it
\frac{41}{42}?
Thanks,
Viet Dao,

Thanks for the help. :smile: And yes, that is the answer to question 2, not 1.
 
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