Thermal expansion with set of 3 wires

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the movement of a knot and the final tension in three identical wires arranged in a Y formation when cooled by a temperature change (ΔT). The initial tension is zero, and the equations of thermal expansion and tension are applied to find the solution. A key insight is that while the total expansion is zero, the angle (θ) remains constant for simplicity, despite potential small changes. Visualizing the system before and after cooling, along with considering Young's modulus, aids in understanding the scenario. The problem can be resolved by carefully analyzing the forces and expansions in each wire.
awerter
Messages
2
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Three identical wires Lo, diameter d, are arranged like a Y letter (please see attachment)

Each end of the wires is secured to a wall. Initial tension is approximately zero. If the wires are cooled ΔT, find the distance the knot moves to the right and the final tension in each wire. (assume θ does not change when the knot moves.)


Homework Equations


ΔL = Lo\alphaΔT
ΔL/Lo = -F/AY = \alphaΔT

The Attempt at a Solution


Tensions in wires: Fwire1 = 2 * Fwire2 * cos(θ/2)
Here is where I'm stuck. I think that the total expansion is zero, so the equation is something like this

ΔLtotal = ΔLwire1 + ΔLwire2 cos(θ/2)
= (Lo\alphaΔT - Lo Fwire1/AY) + ( Lo\alphaΔT - Lo Fwire2/AY) cos(θ/2) = 0

But I got the wrong answers. It is hard for me to visualize how the system changes with the assumption that θ is still the same. It doesn't make sense. Please help me.
Thank you very much.
 

Attachments

  • Utitled.png
    Utitled.png
    4.9 KB · Views: 427
Physics news on Phys.org
This question can be solved by assuming a Young's modulus (Y) for the material. It helps to draw the diagram of individual wires before cooling, after cooling (assuming absence of other wires) and the real scenario after cooling. I have attached these in this reply. So just check it out and see whether it works. Here x is the required extension.
 

Attachments

  • Untitled.jpg
    Untitled.jpg
    13.3 KB · Views: 359
Last edited:
θ would change but the change could be small so they are telling you to assume it's constant.

I reckon for some angles Δx could be -ve, 0 or +ve.
 
Thank you for all your help! I can do it now.
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...

Similar threads

Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
19
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Back
Top