Thermodynamic polytropic compression

In summary, the problem involves a polytropic process and the goal is to solve for V3. The equation used is V3 = (V2^nP2/P3)^1/n. Attempts to solve for V3 by multiplying and dividing have not been successful.
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Vathral
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Homework Statement


I'm reading through my textbook and doing examples on polytropic process. I see this step and cannot figure out how the textbook gets V3 = 0.0169 m3

P2V2n = P3V3n
(500 kPa)(0.05364 m3)1.2 = (2000 kPa)V31.2
V3 = 0.01690 m3

Homework Equations


Not sure what to add other than it is a polytropic compression process


The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried multiplying the left side so its 26.821.2 then diving it it by 2000 to get rid of it from the right side to leave V3 alone. Tried subtracting 1.2 by 1 and tried again...no dice.
 
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Vathral said:

Homework Statement


I'm reading through my textbook and doing examples on polytropic process. I see this step and cannot figure out how the textbook gets V3 = 0.0169 m3

P2V2n = P3V3n
(500 kPa)(0.05364 m3)1.2 = (2000 kPa)V31.2
V3 = 0.01690 m3

Homework Equations


Not sure what to add other than it is a polytropic compression process


The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried multiplying the left side so its 26.821.2 then diving it it by 2000 to get rid of it from the right side to leave V3 alone. Tried subtracting 1.2 by 1 and tried again...no dice.

Solve for V3:

[tex] V_3 = \left(\frac{V_2^nP_2}{P_3}\right)^{1/n}[/tex]

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I would like to clarify that the given problem is a specific case of the more general polytropic process, which is described by the equation P1V1n = P2V2n. This equation relates the initial pressure (P1) and volume (V1) to the final pressure (P2) and volume (V2) under a polytropic process, where n is the polytropic index. In this case, n = 1.2, indicating a non-ideal, non-isothermal compression process.

To solve for V3, we can rearrange the equation to be V3 = (P1V1n/P2)n. Plugging in the given values, we get V3 = (500 kPa)(0.05364 m3)1.2/(2000 kPa)1.2 = 0.0169 m3. Therefore, the textbook's solution is correct.

In general, solving for the final volume in a polytropic process involves using the equation V3 = (P1V1n/P2)n, where n is the polytropic index. It may also be helpful to use logarithms to simplify the calculations. Additionally, it is important to pay attention to the units and make sure they are consistent throughout the calculation.
 
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I can understand your confusion and frustration with this step. It is important to carefully follow the equations and units to ensure accurate calculations. In this case, it seems that you are on the right track but may have made a small error in your calculations.

The equation for a polytropic process is P1V1^n = P2V2^n, where n is the polytropic index. In this case, n = 1.2. So, let's start by plugging in the given values:

(500 kPa)(0.05364 m^3)^1.2 = (2000 kPa)V3^1.2

Next, we can solve for V3 by dividing both sides by (2000 kPa):

(500 kPa)(0.05364 m^3)^1.2 / (2000 kPa) = V3^1.2

(500 kPa)(0.05364 m^3)^1.2 / (2000 kPa) = V3

V3 = 0.0169 m^3

So, it seems that the textbook's answer is correct. It is possible that you made a small error in your calculations or units, which resulted in a different answer. I would recommend double checking your work and units to see if you can identify where the discrepancy may have occurred. Alternatively, you can also ask your instructor or a classmate for help in understanding this step.

Overall, it is important to carefully follow the equations and units in thermodynamics to ensure accurate and meaningful results. Keep practicing and seeking help when needed, and you will become more comfortable with these concepts. Good luck with the rest of your homework!
 

What is thermodynamic polytropic compression?

Thermodynamic polytropic compression is a process in which a gas is compressed according to a specific polytropic equation, which describes the relationship between pressure and volume during the compression.

What is the polytropic equation?

The polytropic equation is a mathematical representation of the relationship between pressure and volume during a polytropic process. It is written as P*V^n = constant, where P is the pressure, V is the volume, and n is the polytropic index.

What is the significance of the polytropic index?

The polytropic index, n, is a measure of how much the pressure and volume change during a polytropic process. It can range from 0 to infinity, with each value representing a different type of compression. For example, n=0 represents isothermal compression, n=1 represents isentropic compression, and n=∞ represents isochoric compression.

What are some real-life applications of thermodynamic polytropic compression?

Thermodynamic polytropic compression is commonly used in industrial processes, such as in gas turbines and refrigeration systems. It is also used in the compression of gases in internal combustion engines and in the compression of air in scuba tanks.

What are some challenges associated with thermodynamic polytropic compression?

One challenge is accurately measuring and controlling the pressure and volume during the compression process. Another challenge is accounting for non-idealities in the gas, such as changes in temperature and heat transfer, which can affect the accuracy of the polytropic equation. Additionally, the selection of the appropriate polytropic index can also be a challenge, as it depends on the specific conditions and goals of the compression process.

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