Thermodynamics (Entropy Generation and Heat Engine)

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The discussion focuses on a thermodynamics problem involving a hot gas stream cooling from 600K to 300K while maintaining constant pressure. Key calculations include determining the heat transfer rate to the atmosphere, the entropy generation rate, and the maximum shaft power produced by a heat engine operating between the gas and the atmosphere. Participants noted the importance of correctly applying temperature changes and pressure conditions in calculations, with one suggesting the need for integration over heat increments to accurately assess maximum work output. Ultimately, it was concluded that the maximum work produced is proportional to the rate of entropy generation.
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Homework Statement


A hot gas stream at 600K and 200 kPa is cooled at constant pressure to 300K in a pipe by direct thermal contact with the atmosphere. The mass flow rate of the stream is 0,1 kg/s and the atmospheric temperature and pressure are 300K and 100 kPa. Modeling the gas as an ideal gas with constant specific heat determine;
a)heat transfer rate to the atmosphere
b)entropy generation rate associated with the cooling process
c)if the hot gas stream is used to produce mechanical power by operating a heat engine between the stream and the atmosphere determine the maximum shaft power produced
d)demonstrate that the mechanical power produced in part c is proportional to the rate of entropy generation in part b

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Since we don't know what the gas is, i write down c representing Cp (constant pressure problem)
dT = T2 - T1 (change in temp)
dS = S2- S1 (change in entropy)

a) Q=mcdt = 0,1c.(600K-300K) = 30c (heat transfer rate to the atmosphere)

b) dS = Sgen + (Q/T) so Sgen = dS - (Q/T)
dS = mcln(T2/T1) = 0,1cln(600/300) = 0.07c
Sgen = 0.07c - (-30c/300K) = 0.17c (entropy generation)

What did i miss? I am confused because i didn't make use of pressure throughout my calculations.

c) max efficiency n = 1 - (Tcold/Thot) = 1 - (300/600) = 0.5
Q.n=Work
30c.0,5=15c (maximum shaft work)

d) i couldn't come up with something on this.
 
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Albertov123 said:

Homework Statement


A hot gas stream at 600K and 200 kPa is cooled at constant pressure to 300K in a pipe by direct thermal contact with the atmosphere. The mass flow rate of the stream is 0,1 kg/s and the atmospheric temperature and pressure are 300K and 100 kPa. Modeling the gas as an ideal gas with constant specific heat determine;
a)heat transfer rate to the atmosphere
b)entropy generation rate associated with the cooling process
c)if the hot gas stream is used to produce mechanical power by operating a heat engine between the stream and the atmosphere determine the maximum shaft power produced
d)demonstrate that the mechanical power produced in part c is proportional to the rate of entropy generation in part b

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Since we don't know what the gas is, i write down c representing Cp (constant pressure problem)
dT = T2 - T1 (change in temp)
dS = S2- S1 (change in entropy)

a) Q=mcdt = 0,1c.(600K-300K) = 30c (heat transfer rate to the atmosphere)

b) dS = Sgen + (Q/T) so Sgen = dS - (Q/T)
dS = mcln(T2/T1) = 0,1cln(600/300) = 0.07c
Sgen = 0.07c - (-30c/300K) = 0.17c (entropy generation)

What did i miss? I am confused because i didn't make use of pressure throughout my calculations.
You didn't miss anything. But you got the temperatures switched in your calculation of ΔS for the gas. It should be -0.07c.
c) max efficiency n = 1 - (Tcold/Thot) = 1 - (300/600) = 0.5
Q.n=Work
30c.0,5=15c (maximum shaft work)
It seems to me that this part is not correct because the gas temperature is not 600K throughout the pipe. This needs to be taken into account.
 
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Thank you for the help.

As the pipe temperature not being uniform, I've accepted gas stream inlet as a thermal reservoir and calculated from that. But, yes this might not be true.
 
Albertov123 said:
Thank you for the help.

As the pipe temperature not being uniform, I've accepted gas stream inlet as a thermal reservoir and calculated from that. But, yes this might not be true.
You need to do an integration over the increments of heat leaving the pipe while applying the efficiency equation to each increment. When you do that, you will find that the maximum work is just the cold reservoir temperature (300 K) times Sgen.

Chet
 
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