[Thermodynamics] Relative fractional error, Ideal-gas-scale, Celsius scale

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The discussion revolves around deriving the fractional error in relation to temperature scales, specifically comparing Celsius and Kelvin. The user attempts to express the relationship between the temperature change (θ) and a variable (r), but encounters discrepancies in their calculations. They question whether θ_i represents Celsius and T_i represents Kelvin, indicating confusion about the definitions. Despite their efforts to derive the equations, the results do not align with expected outcomes, leading to frustration. The conversation highlights the complexities of thermodynamic equations and the importance of clarity in variable definitions.
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OK, so I tried to derive θ in respect to r as in θ(r):

\frac{d\theta}{dr} = \frac{-100}{(r - 1)^2}

Then, I multiplied both sides of the equation by 'dr',

d\theta = \frac{-100}{(r - 1)^2}dr

Then I divided both sides of the equation by θ in order to find the fractional error but it doesn't match with the equation on the picture:

\frac{d\theta}{\theta} = \frac{dr}{(1 - r)}I'm lost.

Anyone?
 
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I assume θ_i = T_i? Or is there a difference?

Is θ_i in Celsius and T_i in Kelvin?

So I tried to derive θ_i in respect to r_s as in θ_i(r_s):

\frac{d\theta_i}{dr_s} = \frac{-100}{(r_s - 1)^2}

Then, I multiplied both sides of the equation by 'dr_s',

d\theta_i = \frac{-100}{(r_s - 1)^2}dr_s

Then I divided both sides of the equation by θ in order to find the fractional error but it doesn't match with the equation on the picture:

\frac{d\theta_i}{\theta_i} = \frac{dr_s}{(1 - r_s)}But the result should be something like:

\frac{d\theta_i}{\theta_i} = 3,73\frac{dr_s}{r_s}
 
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