Thermodynamics: Waste heat and total ice converted to steam

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The discussion focuses on a homework problem involving a coal-fired power plant that generates 600 MW of electricity and uses a significant amount of coal daily. The first part of the problem requires calculating the thermal energy exhausted each day, which was determined to be approximately 1.584 x 10^14 J after accounting for the energy used in electricity generation. The second part involves finding out how much ice at -10°C can be converted to steam at 100°C using the exhausted heat, but confusion arises regarding the correct energy values to use in calculations. Participants clarify the need to subtract the energy used for electricity from the total heat produced to find the exhausted thermal energy. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying thermodynamic equations and understanding energy conversions in the context of the problem.
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Homework Statement


A coal-fi red plant generates 600 MW of electric power. The plant uses
4:8106 kg of coal each day. The heat produced by the combustion of coal is 3:3107 J/kg.
The steam that drives the turbines is at a temperature of 300C, and the exhaust water is at
37C. (a) How much thermal energy is exhausted each day by this plant? (b) How much ice
at -10C can be turned into steam at 100C per year by the exhaust from this power plant?

Homework Equations


Q=mL
Q=mcΔT


The Attempt at a Solution


For question a) all I did was take the coal used each day and multiplied it by the heat produce by its combustion. I found the thermal energy exhausted each day to be 1.584 x 10^14J. (I think this is right)
Question B is where I am having troubles.
This is the equation I got:
Q=mCice(0-(-10))+mLice+mCwater(100-0)+mLvaporization
q/(Cice(10)+Lice+Cwater(100)+Lvice)=m
where:
Lice=334 J/g
Cice=2.1J/gK
Cwater=4.2 J/gk
Lvice=2.256J/g
Q=1.584 x 10^14
Is this right? I getting confused about what energy I should and shouldn't take when trying to find the mass.
 
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jolierouge said:
For question a) all I did was take the coal used each day and multiplied it by the heat produce by its combustion.
That's the energy released by burning the coal, but some went into producing electricity. The exhausted heat is whatever's left.
Question B is where I am having troubles.
This is the equation I got:
Q=mCice(0-(-10))+mLice+mCwater(100-0)+mLvaporization
q/(Cice(10)+Lice+Cwater(100)+Lvice)=m
where:
Lice=334 J/g
Cice=2.1J/gK
Cwater=4.2 J/gk
Lvice=2.256J/g
Q=1.584 x 10^14
Is this right? I getting confused about what energy I should and shouldn't take when trying to find the mass.
You switched Lvap to Lvice in there, and the value seems much too low.
 
So, for the first part I take the "Q" I calculated and subtract the energy converted to energy which is 600MW (which is 600*10^6J) and I should be left with the thermal energy exhausted? And I use this for the q in the second part?

Ah, I see where I switched Lvap. And I see why my Lvap is too low...conversion issues(my bad).

(By the way thanks!)
 
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