Thevenin Equivalents and Opamps

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The discussion revolves around understanding Thevenin equivalents and operational amplifiers (opamps) in the context of electrical engineering coursework. Participants are addressing specific problems related to feedback in opamp circuits and calculating Thevenin voltage in a given scenario.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about applying positive and negative feedback in opamp circuits, particularly in a homework question.
  • Another suggests using nodal analysis as a method to approach the second problem, indicating it can also be solved using feedback methods.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of nodal analysis and superposition in solving opamp problems, noting that these concepts are essential for beginners.
  • One reply mentions breaking the feedback loop in question two, suggesting that this requires knowledge of two-port networks, which may not be familiar to the original poster.
  • There is a reminder that finding the Thevenin equivalent involves setting all voltage sources to zero, which is relevant for the participant's question about Thevenin voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the utility of nodal analysis and superposition for solving opamp-related problems. However, there is no consensus on the best approach for the specific homework questions, and some uncertainty remains regarding the application of feedback concepts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential gaps in the original poster's understanding of feedback mechanisms and two-port network theory, as well as the need for clarification on the steps involved in finding Thevenin equivalents.

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This discussion may be useful for electrical engineering students, particularly those struggling with opamp circuits and Thevenin equivalents in their coursework.

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Hey, guys.. So I am taking some electrical engineer classes and i could really use your help on one of the questions I am stuck on.

So my proff talked about opamps and said we would not be using positive feedback and skipped it. Question number two has both positive and negative feed back. I have no idea how to do this question?

#3, because there is an open circuit can i say there is no current flowing in the top and bottom wire and therefore the Thevenin Voltage is just 24V? I know to find the current i have to put a shunt between a and b but any more tips?

Im struggling overall with the rest of the questions so any help would be appreciated!

Thanks guys! XOXO
 

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Hint: Nodal Analysis for the second problem. You can also do it using feedbacks if you want to.
 
Node analysis is king for almost any op amp you will see in school. Current in equals current out.

Superposition is also your friend...use it whenever possible.

Those are pretty tough problems for a relative begginer, so if you are struggling...you are not alone!
 
You could break the feedback loop in question two but this requires a knowledge of two ports which I doubt you have. In that case, my advice is to apply nodal analysis. Give the node at the positive terminal of the op amp a name such as Vx and remember that because the op amp is deal the node at the negative terminal is at the same voltage and therefore is also Vx. Remember that no current flows into the terminals.

Starting at the input voltage, construct an equation using the currents via KCL and fiddle around with it to find the transfer function Vo/Vi.

Q3: Remember finding the thevenin equivalent involves setting all voltage sources to zero.

Have a punt at these and then we'll tackle the other 3 questions.
 

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