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The discussion revolves around identifying nodes and antinodes in a problem related to standing waves on a string, specifically in the context of harmonics and wave properties.

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  • Participants discuss the application of formulas for nodes and antinodes, with some attempting to use the wavelength relationship and others referencing harmonic diagrams. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of results and the correct application of wave properties.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the relationship between nodes and antinodes, with some participants providing insights into the mathematical relationships involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the formulas and concepts related to standing waves.

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Some participants express confusion over the interpretation of the wavelength in relation to standing waves versus traveling waves, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the concepts involved.

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HELP! This is URGENT! How do I solve the nodes and antinodes for this problem??

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For nodes, I tried doing λ = 2L/n but it's not giving me the answers they got... please help!
 
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Okay so check this diagram out
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/h3.gif
Thats a 3rd harmonic...
So you've got 4 nodes where the string is not moving at all, and 3 antinodes of maximum displacement.
Its fixed at each end, so 0m and 9m must be nodes! They can't move if there being held there. So youve got 2 in between , they must be equally spaced so theyve got to be at 3m and 6m. (Maths way to do this is length/harmonic = 9/3 = 3, got to be spaced 3m apart)
You know that the antinodes must be halfway between these nodes, so they have to be at 1.5, 4.5 and 7.5! This is length/2*harmonic.

For the frequency...
velocity = root(tension/(mass/length))
and then to get the frequency this must be divided by twice the length :)
Hope you understood all that!
 


sorry that's v = \sqrt{\frac{T}{M/L}}

so

f = \frac{\sqrt{\frac{T}{M/L}}}{2L}
 


riseofphoenix said:
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For nodes, I tried doing λ = 2L/n but it's not giving me the answers they got... please help!

That equation gives you the correct answer, but you then interpreted incorrectly.

The modes of vibration of a string represent STANDING WAVES on the string. The wavelength of a standing wave is 1/2 the wavelength of the traveling wave "causing" the standing wave.

Your formula gives λ = 6m. That is the traveling wave λ

So the wavelength of the standing wave is 3m

The first node is at the fixed end where you start. The next ones are every 3 m from there - until you have reached the other end.

The anti-nodes are halfway between each of those nodes
 

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