Calculate Mass Exhausted Per Second from Space Shuttle Thrust

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The space shuttle's engines produce a thrust of 3.0 * 10^7 N, and the speed of the exhaust gases is 15 km/s. The mass of gas exhausted per second can be calculated using the formula m = F/v, resulting in 2000 kg. There is some discussion about the validity of unit cancellation and whether the calculations align with momentum principles. The conversation highlights the relationship between force, mass flow, and momentum, confirming the correctness of the 2000 kg result. The calculations are validated through different approaches, emphasizing the elegance of the momentum-based method.
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At launch, the space shuttle’s engines develop 3.0 * 10^7 N of thrust. If the speed of the exhaust gasses is 15 km/s, what mass of gas is exhausted per second?

<br /> F=ma\Rightarrow m=\frac{F}{a}<br />

<br /> kg=\frac{kg\cdot m/s^2}{m/s^2}<br />

<br /> kg=\frac{kg\cdot m/s^{\rlap{--} {2}}}{m/s^{\rlap{--} {2}}}\Rightarrow <br /> m=\frac{3.0\cdot 10^7kg\cdot \rlap{--} {m}/\rlap{--} {s}}{15(\rlap{--} <br /> {k}\rlap{--} {m}/\rlap{--} {s})\ast 1000\rlap{--} {m}/\rlap{--} {k}\rlap{--} <br /> {m}}<br />

<br /> m=2000kg<br />

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to cancel out the squared part of s squared, and still associate the 3.0e7 N with units that no longer represent it. Is my answer even correct?
 
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F=\frac{\Delta p}{\Delta t} =v\frac{\Delta m}{\Delta t}


That "Delta t" is obviously 1sec,since we're asked the flow in one second...

Therefore the mass exhausted in one second is:

\Delta m=\frac{F}{\frac{v}{\Delta t}}=...

Daniel.

P.S.That force corresponds to a loss in momentum in unit time.
 
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m=\frac{F}{\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}}=...
so...

m=F\frac{\Delta t}{\Delta v}

m=3*10^7kg(m/s^2)\frac{1s}{15000m/s}

m=2000 kg

Amazing I came up with the right answer anyway, because I think I could have been called for illegal use of units. Your way is more elegant. It make sense since this question is in the momentum chapter. Delta P in your example is change in momentum, right?

Thanks, Dex. You've bailed me out again :smile:
 
Sorry,it's the other way around with the variation of momentum.It's due to the mass flow,and not the velocity variation.I'll edit the post...

Daniel.
 
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