Time, force, distance, acceleration

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A car with a mass of 1220 kg travels up an incline, experiencing a constant resistance force of 1400 N while accelerating from 8 m/s to 12 m/s over a distance of 25.8 meters. The work done by the car's engine is calculated to be 100,658 joules. The confusion arises in calculating the time taken to travel from point X to Y, with two different methods yielding slightly different results: 2.516 seconds using power and 2.58 seconds using average speed. The inconsistency is attributed to the fact that the car does not accelerate at a constant rate due to the nature of power and velocity. Understanding that constant power results in decreasing acceleration clarifies the discrepancy in time calculations.
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Homework Statement



A car of mass 1220 kg travels up a straight road which is inclined at an angle A to the horizontal, where sinA=0.05. The resistances to motion are modeled as a constant force of magnitude 1400 N. The car travels a distance of 25.8 metres whilst increasing its speed from 8ms^-1, at the point X, to 12 ms^-1 at the point Y. Calculate the work done by the car's engine in traveling from X to Y.
The car's engine works at a constant rate of 40 kW. Calculate the time taken to travel from X to Y.




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For the first problem I got 100 658 watts, which is correct.
However I'm confused by the second.

Firstly I can use power= work/time to get time=100 658/40 000= 2.51645 seconds
But I can also use s=0.5(u+v)t to get time= (2x25.8)/(12+8)= 2.58 seconds
Where have I gone wrong?
 
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Your calcs check out. It sure looked like an inconsistency in the given numbers but ...
Constant power implies that the car will not accelerate constantly because part of the power is proportional to velocity, P = F*v. The formula s=0.5(u+v)t only works for constant acceleration.
 
furor celtica said:

Homework Statement



A car of mass 1220 kg travels up a straight road which is inclined at an angle A to the horizontal, where sinA=0.05. The resistances to motion are modeled as a constant force of magnitude 1400 N. The car travels a distance of 25.8 metres whilst increasing its speed from 8ms^-1, at the point X, to 12 ms^-1 at the point Y. Calculate the work done by the car's engine in traveling from X to Y.
The car's engine works at a constant rate of 40 kW. Calculate the time taken to travel from X to Y.




Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


For the first problem I got 100 658 watts, which is correct.
The answer should be in joules, not watts.
However I'm confused by the second.

Firstly I can use power= work/time to get time=100 658/40 000= 2.51645 seconds
But I can also use s=0.5(u+v)t to get time= (2x25.8)/(12+8)= 2.58 seconds
Where have I gone wrong?
You're assuming the acceleration is constant, but it isn't. Remember that P = \vec{F}\cdot\vec{v}. If P is constant, as the car speeds up, F must decrease, so the car's acceleration is decreasing.
 
thanks for your time
 
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