Toppling of cylinder containing fluid

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A light cylindrical vessel filled with water is analyzed for its toppling condition when a hole is punched in it. The fluid's exit velocity is derived using Bernoulli's principle, leading to a maximum distance calculation for the water falling horizontally. The net torque condition for toppling is established, but the derived height condition does not match any provided answer options. Participants express confusion over the question's formulation, suggesting it may allow for multiple correct answers. The discussion highlights the complexity of the problem and the need for further clarification on the solution.
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Homework Statement



A light cylindrical vessel of radius r is kept on a rough horizontal surface with sufficient friction so that it cannot slide but can topple. It is filled with water up to a height 2h and a small hole of area a is punched in it so that the water coming out of it falls at the maximum distance from its wall along horizontal surface. Water comes out horizontally from the hole. The value of h for which the cylinder topples is (are)

A)πr3/2a
B)2πr3/a
C)3πr3/2a
D)4πr3/3a

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The Attempt at a Solution



Using Bernoulli's principle ,velocity of the fluid coming out of the hole v= √(2gy) where y be the distance of the hole from the top .

Now since water coming out of it falls at the maximum distance from the cylinder wall along horizontal surface ,we need to maximize the distance S = (√(2gy))(√(2(2h-y)/g) .

From this we get y=h

Water coming out of the hole gives an impulse Fdt = (dm)v to the rest of the fluid ,where dm = ρA(dx)

Fdt = ρA(dx)v
or F = ρAv2

If the block has to topple about the rightmost point P , then there has to be a net torque about that point.

i.e ρAv2h - ρπr2(2h)gr ≥0

or 2ρgAh2≥2ρgπr3h

or h≥πr3/A

But this is none of the given options .

I am not sure if my reasoning and approach is correct .

I would be grateful if somebody could help me with the problem .
 

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Completely agree with you, but the formulation of the question apparently allows multiple answers...
(a bit corny way of detracting good students, this question!)
 
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So,are all the three (b), (c) and (d) correct ?
 
BvU said:
Completely agree with you, but the formulation of the question apparently allows multiple answers...
(a bit corny way of detracting good students, this question!)

Thanks for the input.
 
Would someone like to give opinion on my work in post#1 ?
 
Apart from that it's excellent ? I would go with XL and circle b, c and d.
If only I could regain my credibility again...
 
Thanks BvU :smile:
 

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