Trigonometric functions: express sin(x) in terms of tan(x)

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The discussion revolves around expressing the sine function, sin(x), in terms of the tangent function, tan(x). Participants explore the relationships between these trigonometric functions and the implications of their definitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive sin(x) using the identity tan(x) = sin(x)/cos(x) and considers the implications of the square root when expressing cos(x) in terms of tan(x). Some participants question how to appropriately handle the sign of the square root and whether it can be expressed solely in terms of tan(x).

Discussion Status

Participants have identified the challenge of determining the correct sign for the square root in the expression. Some suggest using the signum function to address this issue, while others propose the idea of a piecewise function as a potential solution. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in expressing sine purely in terms of tangent without losing necessary information about the sign.

Contextual Notes

There is a recognition that the tangent function has periodic behavior that complicates the expression of sine in terms of tangent. The discussion also touches on the limitations of using certain mathematical functions to represent the sign without incorporating cosine.

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Homework Statement


I want to express sin(x) in terms of tan(x).

Homework Equations


tan(x)=sin(x)/cos(x)
1+tan2(x)=sec2(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


sin(x)=cos(x)tan(x)
At this point I realize this is assuming x\neq \pi/2+k\pi

cos^2(x)=\frac{1}{1+tan^2(x)}

therefore, sin(x)=\frac{tan(x)}{\sqrt{1+tan^2(x)}}

But I graphed this and it only looks right half of the time. What I should have is the plus or minus when taking the root of cos2(x) but I need the plus half the time, and the minus the other half of the time and then merge them to describe sin(x) in terms of tan(x).

How should I go about this problem and realize what must be done without the use of graphing tools.
 
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Of course you have pinpointed the problem, that being the necessity to have the appropriate sign on the square root. If you multiply your expression by sgn(cos(x)), all will be well except that you may object to having that cosine in your formula. I don't think there is any way to express the sign just in terms of the tangent function because the tangent function has two periods for one for the cosine and sine. You might be able to concoct a formula using greatest integer and mod functions to make a square wave to multiply it by that doesn't involve the cosine, but that is even less satisfactory.
 


LCKurtz said:
Of course you have pinpointed the problem, that being the necessity to have the appropriate sign on the square root. If you multiply your expression by sgn(cos(x)), all will be well except that you may object to having that cosine in your formula. I don't think there is any way to express the sign just in terms of the tangent function because the tangent function has two periods for one for the cosine and sine. You might be able to concoct a formula using greatest integer and mod functions to make a square wave to multiply it by that doesn't involve the cosine, but that is even less satisfactory.
I'd probably have the most luck concocting a piecewise formula for this case since that is what I have experience in doing. By the way, what is sgn?

Bohrok said:
You should have taken a look here first to find expressing sine with tangent :wink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trig_identities#Related_identities
The formula there gives sin(x)=\pm\frac{tanx}{1+tan^2x} so by being as brief as possible, this is the best that could be done. They don't mention for what domain it is plus and where is it minus.
 


Mentallic said:
I'd probably have the most luck concocting a piecewise formula for this case since that is what I have experience in doing. By the way, what is sgn?

sgn is sometimes used as an abbreviation of the signum or "sign" function.

sgn(x) = 1 if x > 0 and -1 if x < 0

That's why sgn(cos(x)) multiplies your answer by the appropriate choice of + or -.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_function
 

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