Triple Integrals: Spherical Coordinates - Finding the Bounds for ρ

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The discussion focuses on finding the bounds for ρ in triple integrals using spherical coordinates to calculate the volume of a solid above the cone defined by z = √(x² + y²) and below the sphere defined by x² + y² + z² = z. The correct bounds for ρ are established as 0 ≤ ρ ≤ cos(Φ), contrary to the initial incorrect assumption of 0 ≤ ρ ≤ √(2)sin(Φ). This conclusion is reached by transforming the sphere's equation into spherical coordinates, leading to the simplification ρ² = ρ cos(Φ).

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid that lies above the cone z = root(x2 + y2) and below the sphere x2 + y2 + x2 = z.

Homework Equations


x2 + y2 + x2 = ρ2

The Attempt at a Solution


The main issue I have with this question is finding what the boundary of integration is for ρ. I tried to solve for it by:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64325990/Photobook/Photo%202012-06-10%207%2041%2030%20PM.jpg
I end up getting 0 ≤ ρ ≤ root(2)sinΦ.

However the answer says the 0 ≤ ρ ≤ cosΦ, what am I doing wrong?
 
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theBEAST said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid that lies above the cone z = root(x2 + y2) and below the sphere x2 + y2 + x2 = z.

Homework Equations


x2 + y2 + x2 = ρ2

The Attempt at a Solution


The main issue I have with this question is finding what the boundary of integration is for ρ. I tried to solve for it by:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64325990/Photobook/Photo%202012-06-10%207%2041%2030%20PM.jpg
I end up getting 0 ≤ ρ ≤ root(2)sinΦ.

However the answer says the 0 ≤ ρ ≤ cosΦ, what am I doing wrong?

The outer surface is the sphere ##x^2+y^2+z^2=z##. Writing that in spherical coordinates gives ##\rho^2=\rho \cos\phi##. Dividing by ##\rho## gives ##\rho = \cos\phi##. So ##\rho## goes from ##0## to ##\cos\phi##. You get the cone with an appropriate limits for ##\phi##.
 
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LCKurtz said:
The outer surface is the sphere ##x^2+y^2+z^2=z##. Writing that in spherical coordinates gives ##\rho^2=\rho \cos\phi##. Dividing by ##\rho## gives ##\rho = \cos\phi##. So ##\rho## goes from ##0## to ##\cos\phi##. You get the cone with an appropriate limits for ##\phi##.

Oh wow that makes so much sense now! Thanks! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 

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