True of false about partial derivative

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The discussion revolves around the conditions for identifying saddle points in the context of partial derivatives, specifically examining the implications of the second derivative test at a critical point.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the necessity of additional conditions for a point to be classified as a saddle point, particularly questioning the requirement for first derivatives to be zero at the critical point.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the conditions needed for saddle points, while others are seeking clarification on the implications of the critical point status. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of the assumptions involved in the original statement.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the critical point (2,1) and the relationship between the second derivatives, which is central to the discussion. The participants are navigating the definitions and requirements without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


if (2,1) is a critical point of f and fxx(2,1)fyy(2,1) < (fxy(2,1))^2
then f has a saddle point at (2,1)


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The Attempt at a Solution


i think its right
but it turns out to be wrong
can someone tell me why?
 
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wouldn't it need fx(2,1) = fy(2,1) = 0 as well?
 
lanedance said:
wouldn't it need fx(2,1) = fy(2,1) = 0 as well?

could you please explain it a little bit more?
 
ok now i see it is already a critical point, i would agree with you then
 

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