TThermodynamics-compressed flow in a nozzle equation derivation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of equations related to thermodynamics and fluid flow in nozzles, particularly focusing on the relationships between area, Mach number, density, and temperature ratios. Participants are exploring the mathematical relationships and equations necessary for understanding compressed flow in nozzles.

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  • One participant presents a specific equation related to area ratios and Mach number, indicating difficulty in deriving it from lecture notes.
  • Another participant suggests using continuity equations and provides hints on relating various parameters such as density and velocity to Mach number and specific heat ratio.
  • A different participant attempts to manipulate the equations but expresses uncertainty about missing elements in their derivation.
  • Further suggestions are made to derive expressions for velocity ratios and to substitute known relationships into the continuity equation to simplify the problem.

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Participants are engaged in a collaborative effort to derive equations, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or solution as multiple methods and equations are being explored without resolution.

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Participants are working with several equations and relationships that depend on specific assumptions about the flow conditions and properties of the gases involved. Some steps in the derivations remain unresolved, and the discussion reflects various interpretations of the equations.

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Hi everyone!

Homework Statement



Just one part of the lecture notes I couldn't work out how to derrive (apparently we need to know how).

A/A*=1/M[2/(k+1)(1+(k-1)/2*M^2)]^(k+1/2(k-1))

Homework Equations



A/A*=1/M[2/(k+1)(1+(k-1)/2*M^2)]^(k+1/2(k-1))
ρ0/ρ=[1+(k-1/2)*M^2]^(1/k-1)
To/T=1+(k-2/2)*M^2
Po/P=[1+(k-2/2)*M^2]^(k/k-1)
ρ*A*v*=ρAv
M=V/C (mach number)
c=√(KRT)

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried fiddling around with quite a few things but got nothing.

Thanks!
 
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Hint:

rho*A*V = rhostar*Astar*Vstar (continuity)

A/Astar = rhostar*Vstar/(rho*V)

Relate Vstar/V to mach number and specific heat ratio by using supplemental equations below

Relate rhostar/rho to mach number and specific ratio by using supplemental equations below



Supplemental equations:

T0/T =1 + (k-1)/2)M^2

Tstar/T0 = 2/(k+1)

0 subscript denotes stagnation condition
 
okay so i think I've almost got it but i might be missing out on something:

Vstar/V=Ap/Astar*pstar

substituting in mac number,

Mcstar/Mcr=RHS

substituting C=sqrt(KRT)

gives:

M/Msqrt(KRTstar/KRT)

=sqrt(T*/T)

Tstar/T=Tstar/To*To/T=(1+k-1/2)M*2*2/k+1

and pstar/p=po/p*pstar/po=(2/k+1)^1/(k-1)*(1+k-1/2*M^2)*1/k-1

so back to original equation:

A/Astar=sqrt(Tstar/T)*pstar/p

sqrt((1+k-1/2)M*2*2/k+1)*(2/k+1)^1/(k-1)*(1+k-1/2*M^2)*1/k-1

which doesn't quite give the right answer :(
 
Derive an expression for Vstar/V that you'll eventually plug into the continuity equation. After substituting Vstar=Cstar=sqrt(kRTstar) and also noting that V=C*M=M*sqrt(kRT) you should arrive at

Vstar/V = (1/M) * sqrt(Tstar/T)

Now write as

Vstar/V = (1/M)*sqrt(Tstar/T0)*sqrt(T0/T)

But Tstar/T0 = 2/(k + 1) and T0/T = 1 + (k-1)*M^2/2

Substitute these in then use a similar tactic for rhostar/rho.

Plug both into continuity equation and simplify. It'll work...
 

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