Two Doppler Shifts: 800Hz to 126Hz

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The discussion centers on calculating the frequency shift of a sound wave reflected from an approaching object, starting with an initial frequency of 800 Hz. The speed of sound at 20ºC is determined to be 343 m/s, and the object's speed is 25.0 m/s. The first Doppler shift results in a frequency of 858 Hz, while the second shift, treating the object as a source, yields a frequency of approximately 925 Hz. The final frequency shift is calculated to be about 125 Hz, aligning closely with the expected answer. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate algebraic calculations to avoid round-off errors.
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A stationary source directs an 800-Hz sound wave toward an approaching object moving with a speed of 25.0 m/s. What is the frequency shift of the reflected wave if the air temperature is 20ºC? (Hint: There are two Doppler shifts here. Why?)

f = 800Hz
the speed of sound = v = 331 + 0.6Tc = 343 m/s
the speed of the object = vo = 25.0 m/s
For the first doppler shift,
f1 = (v + vo)/v * f
f1 = 858 Hz
For the second doppler shift, I'm guessing that we use the object moving as the source of the sound and the original sound source as the observer:
f2 = v/(v - vo) * f1
f2 = 925 Hz

But the answer is 126 Hz!:confused:
 
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The shift in frequency is the difference between the final frequency and the initial one, so your answer is actually correct. (925 - 800 = 125 Hz, which is close enough to the expected answer).
 
the Google calculator says:
(((343 + 25) / (343 - 25)) * 800) - 800 = 125.786164
Sometimes it's best to get an algebraic answer in terms of the given variables, then plug in the numbers. Otherwise, intermediate numerical values can introduce round-off errors.
 
robphy said:
the Google calculator says:
(((343 + 25) / (343 - 25)) * 800) - 800 = 125.786164
Sometimes it's best to get an algebraic answer in terms of the given variables, then plug in the numbers. Otherwise, intermediate numerical values can introduce round-off errors.
Yeah, my value of 125 Hz comes from the fact that I used f1 = 858 Hz, when I think it should've been 858.3xxxxxxx... I get it now. Thanks.
 
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