Ultrafast bridge rectifier module question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for suitable ultrafast bridge rectifier modules for a 50kHz square wave application from a switched-mode power supply (SMPS) transformer. Participants explore options for high-frequency rectification, addressing challenges with existing diode packages and thermal management.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the availability of diode bridge modules suitable for high-frequency applications, expressing difficulties with TO-220 packages and heatsink attachment.
  • Another participant asks for the maximum current rating needed for the application, indicating a need for clarification on current requirements.
  • A participant challenges the claim about heatsink attachment, suggesting that TO-220 packages typically attach well and offers advice on using insulating washers and heatsink grease.
  • One participant describes their custom-built SMPS setup and the need for a solid square 4-pin bridge for easier thermal attachment, specifying requirements of 400V peak reverse voltage and 20-30 amps of forward current.
  • Another participant asks about the intended frequency and the speed of the square wave edges, indicating a need for precision in the rectification process.
  • A suggestion is made to use a single diode for full wave rectification if a center-tapped secondary is available, which could save space compared to a four-diode bridge package.
  • Participants propose alternative configurations using dual diodes, such as MUR1605CT and MUR1620CTR, to address the rectification needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best solution for the rectification challenge, with multiple competing views and suggestions remaining in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the specifications of available diode modules and the implications of using different configurations, such as center-tapped versus full bridge setups. There are also unresolved questions about the thermal management of the proposed solutions.

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Hi , I have a 50khz square wave from a smps transformer and currently I am using MUR 1620 fast diodes but since they come in individual trasistor type TO220 type packages I have some problems with attaching them properly to heatsink , does anyone know are there any nice diode bridge modules like those that come for mains 50hz that could be used for high frequency ?

I want something like in the attached picture
 

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Robertphysics said:
Hi , I have a 50khz square wave from a smps transformer and currently I am using MUR 1620 fast diodes but since they come in individual trasistor type TO220 type packages I have some problems with attaching them properly to heatsink , does anyone know are there any nice diode bridge modules like those that come for mains 50hz that could be used for high frequency ?
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what max current rating do you need ( as in maximum current likely to be drawn) ?
 
Robertphysics said:
TO220 type packages I have some problems with attaching them properly to heatsink
Can you say more about this? TO-220 packages usually attach well to heatsinks. If you are having isolation problems and want to use a single heatsink, are you familiar with insulating washers and heatsink grease?

http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mrJXeTm3JsEf-8CXEAaGfPg.jpg
mrJXeTm3JsEf-8CXEAaGfPg.jpg
 
No it's ok to 220does attach ok to heatsinks it's just that the smps is custom built and I didin't have good neough place for the many required fast rectifier diodes , I did manage to get them in but if I could have a solid square 4 pin bridge like I have for mains that would be much better for me and much easier to attach thermally , my average need is about 400v peak reverse voltage and about 20/30 amps of forward current that would be enough probably with reserve
so I was just wondering whether such things exist like fast diode rectifier bridges for square wave rectification
or are there only individual to220 packages that are then arranged by 4 in a bridge?
 
What frequency do you intend to run this at? You say square wave. How fast do your edges need to be?

BoB

Edit: "50kHz" Oops i missed the "k"
 
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Robertphysics said:
Hi , I have a 50khz square wave from a smps transformer

I'm assuming that the secondary of the transformer isn't. but if you has a centre-tapped secondary then you could use just one of these

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2045664.pdf?_ga=1.187482731.272050964.1481326413

and have full wave rectification ... substantially less room needed than a 4 diode bridge package or 4 individual diodes as you originally contemplated

I have searched a couple of the major component suppliers and have not been able find a 4 diode high speed and high current packageDave
 
Rather than using 4x MUR1620 single fast recovery diode.
Use dual diodes, MUR1605CT common cathode, with MUR1620CTR common anode.
 
Baluncore said:
Rather than using 4x MUR1620 single fast recovery diode.
Use dual diodes, MUR1605CT common cathode, with MUR1620CTR common anode.

yes, that is the other way I was going to suggest if the secondary winding isn't centre-tapped
 

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