Understanding Mass, Energy & Space: How Much Energy Does it Take to Move 1 Ton?

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The discussion revolves around the energy required to move a mass of 1 ton in space, exploring concepts of inertia, kinetic energy, and the effects of force applied over time. Participants consider both theoretical and practical aspects of moving mass in a weightless environment.

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  • One participant questions how much energy is needed to move 1 ton of mass in space, noting that everything is weightless and inquiring about the role of inertia.
  • Another participant provides equations for kinetic energy and momentum, prompting further exploration of how to apply these concepts.
  • A participant proposes a scenario of moving the mass at 10 km/h using 100 pounds of force, asking about the implications of applying force over different time periods.
  • One reply challenges the idea that a person could stop a 1 ton mass with a finger, emphasizing that kinetic energy must be countered regardless of the absence of gravity.
  • Another participant calculates the kinetic energy for the given speed and discusses the relationship between force, distance, and work, suggesting that applying force over a longer distance results in more work done.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of stopping a moving mass with minimal force and the implications of applying force over time. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

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Limitations include assumptions about the nature of the mass's movement and the definitions of force and work in the context of space. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of how energy and force interact in a weightless environment.

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Individuals interested in physics, particularly those exploring concepts of energy, force, and motion in non-gravitational contexts, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi;
disclaimer: I'm not a physicist.
just wondering ... if i was in space and needed to move 1 ton of mass ... how much energy would it require?
if everything in space is weightless then does it really require much energy?
what about inertia? ... if a 1 ton mass was floating toward me could i simply stop it (like superman) with 1 finger??
thanks
 
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How fast do you want to move it?

KE = 1/2 m v²
p = m v

Where KE is kinetic energy, p is momentum, m is mass, and v is velocity.
 
well ... just for the example ... let's say 10km per hour and i was going to use 100 pounds of force (arm strength) to move the object

and, then one more variable ... if one was to use a smaller force to move the object over a longer time period then is it the same formula ? ... just with a time variable added ?

for example ... instead of all the force in one instance ... 1/10th the force over 10X the time ... would that be correct ??

so, of your two equations, which equation would I use ?

thanks
 
raezair said:
... if a 1 ton mass was floating toward me could i simply stop it (like superman) with 1 finger??
thanks

Of course not. The fact that the truck floating towards you is not being pulled down by gravity does not mean it has less energy when it's moving, quite the contrary.
If the object has a certain amount of kinetic energy, you will need that amount to stop it. Otherwise you will be swept away. It depends on what you are picturing when you say 'floating'.
You can't stop a comet with your index finger just because you're in outer space. Superman packs a mean punch, really.
 
raezair said:
well ... just for the example ... let's say 10km per hour and i was going to use 100 pounds of force (arm strength) to move the object
So, with the formula above you have KE = 1/2 1 ton (10 km/h)² = 3858 J

If we take 3858 J and divide by 100 lbf (W = f d) we get 8.6 m. So a 100 lbf push could slow a 1 ton mass from 10 km/h over a distance of 8.6 m. Since most people don't have arms 8.6 m long this would not work.

raezair said:
and, then one more variable ... if one was to use a smaller force to move the object over a longer time period then is it the same formula ? ... just with a time variable added ?

for example ... instead of all the force in one instance ... 1/10th the force over 10X the time ... would that be correct ??
I think what you are interested in is W = f d where W is work f is force and d is distance. So if you apply the same force over a longer distance then you have done more work. Also remember that work is equal to the change in energy.
 
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