Understanding Point B: Solving for Normal Force at Point B

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Understanding the normal force at Point B involves recognizing that it is calculated using the equation N = m(v²/r) - mg, resulting in a value of 31.92 N. The confusion arises from the subtraction of gravitational force (mg) from the centripetal force (m(v²/r)), as the centripetal force is a resultant force rather than an applied force. To visualize the forces, a diagram should depict the normal force and gravitational force acting in opposite directions, with the resultant force determined by the chosen sign convention. At Point A, the normal force acts upward while gravitational force acts downward, and at Point B, both forces act downward, affecting the equation's sign. Properly understanding these concepts clarifies the relationship between forces and their representation in diagrams.
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I need help understanding point B
Point A i get.
Normal force at B = m x v2/r - m x g

= 1.68 x 12 x 12 /5 - 1.68 x 9.8

= 31.92 N

I can't make sense of why the forces are subtracting if A radial and MG are both positive
 
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Miliman13 said:
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I need help understanding point B
Point A i get.
Normal force at B = m x v2/r - m x g

= 1.68 x 12 x 12 /5 - 1.68 x 9.8

= 31.92 N

I can't make sense of why the forces are subtracting if A radial and MG are both positive
The centripetal force is not an applied force, it is a resultant force, so you do not add it to other applied forces. Instead, sum of applied forces = resultant.
 
haruspex said:
The centripetal force is not an applied force, it is a resultant force, so you do not add it to other applied forces. Instead, sum of applied forces = resultant.
my textbook says the same thing Sum of forces and Radial Acceleration always point in.

But i still don't know how to draw a diagram that allows me to visually see how the algebra equates the solution,

I keep wasting paper trying to draw it but nothing matches the math
 
Miliman13 said:
how to draw a diagram
The diagram at A would show normal force up, mg down, resultant up: N-mg=mv2/r.
At B, normal force down, mg down, resultant down. How you write that as an equation depends on your sign convention. If you choose up as positive for all forces, N-mg=-mv2/r, N being negative now. Or you can choose down as positive for N and write N+mg=mv2/r.
 
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