Understanding the Physics Behind a Vertical String's Wave Pulse Travel Time?

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the travel time of a transverse wave pulse along a vertically suspended rope of mass m and length L. The correct formula for the travel time is established as t = 2(L/g)^(1/2). The user initially attempted to derive this using the wave speed formula v = (T/u)^(1/2), where T is the tension and u is the linear mass density. The error occurred when the user assumed a constant wave speed instead of integrating the variable speed along the length of the rope.

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A rope of mass m and length L is suspended vertically. Show that a transverse wave pulse will travel the length of the tope in a time t = 2(L/g)^1/2.

stuck... i tried:

v = (T/u)^1/2 ; where T = m(X/L)g and u = m/L

the X is the distance from the bottom of the string...

so i got v= (xg)^1/2

t= (L-X)/ (xg)^1/2

which i can't simplify to t = 2(L/g)^1/2.

Where did I go wrong here? logic is making sense to me but I am no getting the answer. thanks.
 
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You found v as of function of x correctly, but then just multiplied by the distance to find the time. Since v is not constant, you must integrate:
[tex]v = \frac{dx}{dt} = (xg)^{1/2}[/tex]
[tex]t = \int_{0}^{L}\frac{dx}{(xg)^{1/2}}[/tex]
 
can you please expain why T = m(X/L)g? Thanks!
 

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