Understanding the PLL Block Diagram & Stable Point of Operation

  • Thread starter Thread starter OliskaP
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Loop Phase
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on understanding the Phase-Locked Loop (PLL) block diagram and its stable point of operation. Key insights reveal that for the PLL to achieve stability, the input to the PI controller must have an average value of zero, necessitating that the current (ia) and voltage (va) are orthogonal, resulting in cos(φ) = 0. Additionally, the frequency (ω) must match the system frequency to maintain synchronization and prevent instability, akin to avoiding gear grinding in mechanical systems. Resources such as "Instantaneous Power Theory and Applications to Power Condition" and the Signetics NE565 datasheet are recommended for further understanding.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Phase-Locked Loop (PLL) concepts
  • Familiarity with PI controller dynamics
  • Knowledge of instantaneous power theory
  • Basic electronics principles related to current and voltage relationships
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Signetics NE565 datasheet for practical PLL applications
  • Learn about capture transients in PLL systems
  • Explore advanced topics in instantaneous power theory
  • Investigate the mathematical foundations of orthogonal signals in electrical engineering
USEFUL FOR

Electrical engineers, students studying control systems, and professionals working with PLL circuits will benefit from this discussion, particularly those seeking to enhance their understanding of synchronization in electronic systems.

OliskaP
Messages
38
Reaction score
7
I have some trouble fully understanding the PLL block diagram shown below in the figure. The PLL circuit is used to generate currents (i alpha and i beta) which are in phase with the positive fundamental sequence of the voltage.

I am using the book "Instantaneous Power Theory and Applications to Power Condition" which I found as a pdf on the web.

The authors write:
  • The only way for the PLL to reach a stable point is if the input to the PI controller in steady state has an average value of zero.
For the average power to be zero in steady state the current ia and voltage va has to be orthogonal to each other, i.e. cos(\phi) = 0.

The author also write that the frequency \omega has to be equal to the system frequency and the current and voltages has to be orthogonal to reach a stable point of operation.

Why must \omega be equal to system frequency to reach a stable point of operation?I would appreciate if someone help me fully understood how this circuit works

EDIT: I forgot to write 2pi/3 at the left bottom block, i wrote pi/3.
PLL.JPG
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
the best book i know of for PLL's is Signetics from 1972.

it's archived at https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_signeticsdcsPLLApplications_5800304

i saved a copy in my 'electronics' folder. Signetics NE565 datasheet is a companion piece.

OliskaP said:
Why must ω\omega be equal to system frequency to reach a stable point of operation?

That's what PLL's do, lock on to a frequency. Being out of sync is like grinding gear teeth. Read about capture transient in that Signetics book.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: OliskaP
http://www.ece.usu.edu/ece_store/spec/LM565.pdf
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: OliskaP
Thank you @jim hardy , i'll read what you suggested tomorrow morning.
 

Similar threads

Replies
26
Views
7K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
750
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
3K