1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Homework Help: Universe entropy variation of one body and a reservoir

  1. Oct 14, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    One body of constant pressure heat capacity [itex]C_P[/itex] at temperature [itex]T_i[/itex] it's placed in contact with a thermal reservoir at a higher temperature [itex]Tf[/itex]. Pressure is kept constant until the body achieves equilibrium with the reservoir.
    a) Show that the variation in the entropy of the universe equals:
    [itex]C_P [x − ln(1 + x )][/itex],
    onde [itex]x = − \frac {(Tf− Ti )}{Tf}[/itex]

    (There might be some translation issues from Portuguese to English).

    2. Relevant equations
    All I can think is
    [itex]C_P= T \left ( \frac {\partial S}{\partial T} \right )_P [/itex]
    [itex] dU = T dS [/itex]
    [itex] dQ = C_P dT [/itex]
    [itex] dS = \frac {dQ}{T} [/itex]

    3. The attempt at a solution
    I haven't been able to understand the underlying physics properly. I attempted a "no idea what I'm doing but here I go" with the first equation, which led to nothing. I assume that the entropy variation of the universe should be the addition of the variation in the body and in the reservoir but can't seem to calculate them correctly.

    Thank you for your time people.
  2. jcsd
  3. Oct 19, 2012 #2
    I know it's rude to bump threads, but does anybody have the time and knowledge to help me?
  4. Oct 21, 2012 #3
    To get the total entropy change for the combination of system and surroundings, you have to take each of them separately along reversible paths from the initial to the final state. Can you think of a reversible path between the initial and final state for the system? Can you think of a reversible path between the initial and final state for the reservoir? How much heat is transferred between the system and the reservoir when it goes from the initial to the final state? All this heat is transferred to the reservoir at its (constant) temperature Tf.

    That's all the hints I can give you without revealing every last detail.
  5. Oct 22, 2012 #4
    I could figure it out, thanks man, really.
Share this great discussion with others via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook