Using Stoke's theorem on an off-centre sphere

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Homework Statement



Typeset homework problem 3(a): C is the intersection of the plane x + y = 2b and the sphere x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 2b(x + y); show it is a vertical circle centred at (b, b, 0) with radius sqrt(2b); evaluate the line integral of y dx + z dy + x dz over C, clockwise from the origin, using Stokes' theorem.

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Stokes theorem
$$\int_C \textbf{F} . \textbf{dr} = \int_S \nabla \times \textbf{F} . \textbf{ds}$$

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Handwritten derivation applying Stokes theorem to a sphere cut by the plane x+y+z=2b, with a 3D sketch of the sphere and an inset xy-plane projection showing a circle.


I have the answer to the problem but mine is missing a factor of$$\sqrt 2 $$ I can't seem to find my error
 
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Please write out your attempt instead of attaching an image of it. I cannot read what is in your image.
 
Apologies for that:

F= (y,z,x)
curl F = (-1,-1,-1)

Projecting the surface on the x-y plane:

Take ##\Phi = z- \sqrt{2b(x+y)-x^2 -y^2} = 0## from the equation of the surface to find the normal n. Then $$\textbf{n} = \dfrac{\nabla\Phi}{|\nabla\Phi|} = \dfrac{\left(\dfrac{x-b}{\sqrt{2b(x+y)-x^2 -y^2}} , \dfrac{y-b}{\sqrt{2b(x+y)-x^2 -y^2}},1\right)}{\dfrac{\sqrt{2}b}{\sqrt{2b(x+y)-x^2 -y^2}}}$$

Now ##ds = \dfrac{dx dy}{\textbf{n}.\textbf{k}} = \dfrac{\sqrt{2}b}{\sqrt{2b(x+y)-x^2 -y^2}} dxdy ##

$$\therefore \int_{S}\nabla \times \textbf{F}.\textbf{ds} = -\int\int dxdy = -\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\sqrt{2}b}_{0} r \ dr d\theta = -2\pi b^2$$

Where for the change to polar coordinates was taken as ##x=rcos\theta +b , y=rsin\theta +b##
 
The plane ##x + y +0z= 2b## has unit normal ##\hat n = \frac 1 {\sqrt 2}\langle 1,1,0\rangle## in the correct direction. So $$
\oint_C \vec F\cdot dr = \iint_S \langle -1,-1,-1\rangle \cdot \frac 1 {\sqrt 2}\langle 1,1,0\rangle ~dS
=-\frac 2 {\sqrt 2} \cdot \text{Area of circle}$$
You don't need to jump through all those hoops to get the unit normal to a plane nor work the area integral.
Edit, added: What's worse, the plane is vertical and can't be expressed as a function of ##x## and ##y##.
 
LCKurtz said:
The plane ##x + y +0z= 2b## has unit normal ##\hat n = \frac 1 {\sqrt 2}\langle 1,1,0\rangle## in the correct direction. So $$
\oint_C \vec F\cdot dr = \iint_S \langle -1,-1,-1\rangle \cdot \frac 1 {\sqrt 2}\langle 1,1,0\rangle ~dS
=-\frac 2 {\sqrt 2} \cdot \text{Area of circle}$$
You don't need to jump through all those hoops to get the unit normal to a plane nor work the area integral.
Edit, added: What's worse, the plane is vertical and can't be expressed as a function of ##x## and ##y##.

So this is taking the surface to be the circle ? Thats much simpler then, thanks!
 
Morbidly_Green said:
So this is taking the surface to be the circle ? Thats much simpler then, thanks!
Yes. It doesn't matter what surface is bounded by the curve. No matter which surface you use, its surface integral is equal to the same ##\int_C \vec F\cdot dr##, so they are all equal. So you can evaluate the surface integral over simplest such surface, which is the planar disk.