Varrying load distance applies a two equal forces on two roller

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The discussion revolves around calculating moments in a system involving forces at points A, B, L, and C, with a focus on the balance of forces and torques. Participants agree that summing moments about point C is a sensible approach due to the zero angular acceleration, leading to the conclusion that the sum of torques must equal zero. A key realization is that the pawl at point H can rotate freely, which affects the direction and magnitude of the forces involved. After recalculating, one participant suggests that the value of b changes based on the new understanding of the forces at H. The conversation emphasizes the importance of detailed calculations for confirming results.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


Moment = R cross F
Couple moments?

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I have to sum the moments from A, B and L all about C but I am not sure about the relationships between them.
 
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Hi GarrettKoep! :smile:
GarrettKoep said:
I think I have to sum the moments from A, B and L all about C but I am not sure about the relationships between them.

Yes, that's right …

you know the directions of the forces at A B and L, but you have no idea which direction the force is at C, so the only sensible thing is to take moments about C. :wink:

And since the angular acceleration is (obviously!) zero, that means that the sum of the torques (moments) must be zero.

What do you get? :smile:
 
After summing the moments about C I calculated that b=27
 
Hi GarrettKoep! :smile:
GarrettKoep said:
After summing the moments about C I calculated that b=27

(How did you get that? Anyway …)

erm :redface: … when I said "you have no idea which direction the force is at C", I thought that the "pawl" was rigidly fixed to the rest of the body.

But now that I've looked at the picture more carefully :rolleyes:, I realize that the pawl is loose … it can rotate freely at that unnamed point 8" up … let's call that point H.

And since the pawl isn't rotating, that means that the force at C must balance the force at H.

So we know the direction of both the forces at C and at H.

And the rigid body is supported by forces at A B L and H.

Use that information to find the direction and magnitude of the force at H, and then use moments to find b.

Sorry I missed that point earlier. :redface:
 
Okay, so if you calculated the sum of the moments about H the equation for b would change from (b-7)*L to (b-9)*L and they others would stay the same ( Fab *20). In conclusion, b would then be equal to 29.
 
If you want anyone to confirm that, you'll have to show your detailed calculations. :smile:
 
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