Vector Calc: Find the volume [using triple integrals]

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a region in the first octant beneath the plane defined by the equation 2x + 3y + 2z = 6, using triple integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore different methods for setting up the triple integral, including isolating z and determining limits based on the first octant. There are discussions about the normal vector to the plane and how it relates to the volume calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on isolating variables and setting limits for integration. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to describe the region in the xy-plane. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being discussed, with some participants expressing confusion about the methods being used.

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Participants mention the importance of sketching the region in the xy-plane to better understand the volume calculation. There are references to external resources for clarification, and some participants express uncertainty about their previous calculations.

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1. Find the volume, using triple integrals, of the region in the first octant beneath the plane 2x+3y+2z = 6



2. http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/TripleIntegrals.aspx



SOLUTION:
1. Assume X and Y are 0. Solve for Z: 2(0)+3(0)+2z=6 => z=3 (0,0,3)
2. Assume X and Z are 0. Solve for Y: 2(0)+3(y)+2(0)=6 => y=2 (0,2,0)
3. Assume Y and Z are 0. Solve for X: 2(x)+3(0)+2(0)=6 => x=3 (3,0,0)
4. The plane in question passes through three points: (0,0,3), (0,2,0), (3,0,0). Find two vectors parallel to this plane.
a. V = (3,0,0) - (0,2,0) = (3,-2,0)
b. W = (3,0,0) - (0,0,3) = (3,0,-3)
5. Compute a Normal vector N of this plane with the two vectors obtained in the previous two steps.
a. N = v*w = (3,-2,0) [(3,0,-3)]
b. i.=6, j.= - 9 and k.=6
c. (6x-9y+6z) = ((x-3)i+yj+zk) => 6x-9y+6z=18 => Solve for Z: z= -x+3y/2+3
d. Solve for y => (using the slope equation: (0-2)/(3-0)=> -2x/3+2 =y
e. Solve for X => We already know that it is 3.
f. Plug in x, y, and z information into the formula listed above.
e. My answer is 9, but the [final exam review for this problem is 3]

Please help. I am taking my final this week to finish my summer school before school starts next week.

Thank you all for your help.

DOH-WLcat.
 
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The method outlined in Paul's math notes is nothing like that (unless this whole normal vector thing is some genius obscure way of doing these.) The first thing you should do is isolate z to get:

z=(1/2)(6 - 2x - 3y)

Since we only want the volume in the first octant, the lower limit is the xy plane, which is when z=0. Thus the first integral should have limits with 0 \leq z \leq (1/2)(6 - 2x - 3y). From there, set z=0 and describe the region in the xy plane for the other two integrals.
 
Look at Example #2 in the http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/TripleIntegrals.aspx" you provided.

By the way: The vector, 2i + 3j + 2k, is normal to the plane, 2x+3y+2z = 6 .
 
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SammyS said:
Look at Example #2 in the http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/TripleIntegrals.aspx" you provided.

By the way: The vector, 2i + 3j + 2k, is normal to the plane, 2x+3y+2z = 6 .

I got 9 [same as my old answer]
 
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Screwdriver said:
The method outlined in Paul's math notes is nothing like that (unless this whole normal vector thing is some genius obscure way of doing these.) The first thing you should do is isolate z to get:

z=(1/2)(6 - 2x - 3y)

Since we only want the volume in the first octant, the lower limit is the xy plane, which is when z=0. Thus the first integral should have limits with 0 \leq z \leq (1/2)(6 - 2x - 3y). From there, set z=0 and describe the region in the xy plane for the other two integrals.

This was my first step. I tried to upload a problem that is similar to this problem, but my post got deleted.
 
DOH-WLcat said:
This was my first step. I tried to upload a problem that is similar to this problem, but my post got deleted.

I don't make the rules or anything around here; I'm just some guy. But now you should try sketching the region in the xy plane. What does it look like? How can you describe it in terms of x and y?
 
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[SOLVED] Vector Calc: Find the volume [using triple integrals]

I got it right. It was 3. I made a mistake at N = v*w = (3,-2,0) [(3,0,-3)]. The answer for this would be i.=6, j.= 9 and k.=6. Not i.=6, j.= - 9 and k.=6. I got screwed up by a negative sign. :(
BTW, my method was right. Felt so dumb :P
 

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