Vector calculus and force field

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the work done against a force field described by F = -kx^x - ky^y while moving between points (1, 1) and (4, 4) along different paths. Participants clarify the notation used, interpreting ^x and ^y as unit vectors. The concept of conservative vector fields is highlighted, indicating that the work done depends only on the initial and final points, not the path taken. This insight suggests that the problem can be simplified significantly if the force field is indeed conservative. Ultimately, understanding the nature of the force field is crucial for solving the problem efficiently.
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1.10.1 The force field acting on a two-dimensional linear oscillator may be described by
F=−ˆxkx − ˆyky.
Compare the work done moving against this force field when going from (1, 1) to (4, 4)
by the following straight-line paths:
(a) (1, 1)→(4, 1)→(4, 4)
(b) (1, 1)→(1, 4)→(4, 4)
(c) (1, 1)→(4, 4) along x = y.
This means evaluating

(4,4)
(1,1)
F · dr
along each path.
 
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hi tibphysic, welcome to pf, the idea is to have a try

do you know about conservative vector fields?
 
yes i do.. conservative vectors fields does not depend on the path taken.. just on the initial and the final point.
 
could be useful...
 
tibphysic said:
1.10.1 The force field acting on a two-dimensional linear oscillator may be described by
F=−ˆxkx − ˆyky.

I'm not familiar with that notation. Is that <-kx, -ky> or something else? Are ^x and ^y notations for i and j?
 
lanedance said:
could be useful...

True, but perhaps the intent of the exercise is to actually work them...
 
im assuming his notation ^x , read x hat. where the carrot should be over the x.
is equivalent to i , j , k . they use x hat and y hat and z hat in physics more.
 
For instance:

Along the path (1, 1)→(4, 1), d\hat{r}=\hat{x}\,dx\,.

So, find \displaystyle\int_{(1,1)}^{(4,1)}\,dW=\int_{x=1}^{x=4}{\vec{F}\,|_{y=1}\cdot\hat{x}}\,dx
 
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yeah I thought the notation was a little strange but took them as unit vectors, so the potentials were of harmonic oscillator form
 
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SammyS said:
For instance:

Along the path (1, 1)→(4, 1), d\hat{r}=\hat{x}\,dx\,.

So, find \displaystyle\int_{(1,1)}^{(4,1)}\,dW=\int_{x=1}^{x=4}{\vec{F}\,|_{y=1}\cdot\hat{x}}\,dx
True, but if the force field is conservative, as lanedance suggested in the first response, the problem is much easier. You don't need to do all those integrals.
 

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