Vector space and number of subspaces

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The problem involves determining the number of two-dimensional subspaces in the vector space (F_3)^4, where F_3 is a finite field. The original poster attempts to explore the implications of different bases generating the same subspace and seeks guidance on how to approach the problem correctly.

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  • The original poster discusses their initial approach using combinations to count subspaces and questions the uniqueness of bases in generating subspaces. They also consider the implications of linear combinations of basis vectors. Other participants suggest simplifying the problem by considering one-dimensional subspaces in smaller vector spaces.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding simplifying the problem, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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The original poster notes that this question was a bonus on a recent term test, indicating a potential time constraint and the need for clarity on the topic.

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Homework Statement

How many two dimensional subspaces does (F_3)^4 have?

The attempt at a solution

I chose an arbitrary basis so B = (v1,v2,v3,v4) for (F_3)^4 and then basically did 4C2 = 6 so it has 6 subspaces with dimension 2. However, thinking over this problem I've realized that I'm not exactly sure whether a different basis C can possibly generate another subspace that B generated. See if C were to generate another subspace that B didn't, wouldn't this mean that there is a vector in this subspace that can't be written as a linear combination of the vectors in B? And therefore, contradicting the fact that B is actually a basis for (F_3)^4?

This was a bonus question on my term test I just finished writing, so a general idea of how to arrive to a correct solution would be great.

Thanks!

EDIT: Another attempt at a solution

I've tried something else. Let U be subspace generated by two basis elements of B. Now I'd like to show that U is also generated by exactly two basis elements of C. So if I let x be an arbitrary vector in U we could write it as a linear combination of two basis elements of B:

x = a1v1 + a2v2 where a1 and a2 cannot both be zero.

So I would like to show that x = b1u1 + b2u2 where again b1 and b2 cannot both be zero.

Now u1 and u2 can be written as a linear linear combination of the vectors in B since they are in the vector space, but then I'd have to show that the some of the coefficients in this linear combination have to be zero (otherwise x would be a linear combination of 3 or 4 vectors of B contradicting that it was generated by only two vectors of B). But I can't get any where with this. Maybe the assertion isn't even true?
 
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apologies if its obvious, but what is F_3?
 
Its the finite field with elements {0,1,2} and arithmetic is performed modulo 3.
 
Any ideas?
 
Try repeating your argument for a simpler problem, e.g. how many one-dimensional subspaces does F34 have? Or better, how about F32? Or maybe what one-dimensional subspaces does R2 have?
 

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