Vertical Projectile Motion Problem

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Two students throw balls from a balcony 19.6m high, one downward at 14.7m/s and the other upward at the same speed. The first ball takes 1 second to hit the ground, while the second ball takes 3 seconds, resulting in a flight time difference of 2 seconds. Both balls strike the ground at the same speed of approximately 14.7m/s. After 0.8 seconds, the balls are calculated to be 23.52m apart, with attention needed on the signs used in calculations to determine heights accurately. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying kinematic equations and tracking signs for vertical motion problems.
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Homework Statement



Please check my work.

Two students are on a balcony 19.6m above the ground. One guy throws a ball vertically downwards at 14.7m/s; at the same time the other guy throws a second ball vertically upwards at the same speed. The second ball just misses the balcony on the way down.

2.3.1) What is the difference in the balls flight time?
2.3.2) What is the velocity of each ball as they strike the ground?
2.3.3) How far apart are the balls 0.8s after they are thrown?

Homework Equations



vf^2 = vi^2 + 2a*y
delta y = vi*t + 1/2*a*t^2
delta y = vf+vi/2 * t
vf = vi + a*t

The Attempt at a Solution



2.3.1) For the ball thrown upwards I decided to first find the maximum height it reached. I used the first equation from the list and got an answer of 11.03m. I then used the third equation to find the time and got 1.5s (another 1.5s for coming down=3s). I then worked out the time for the ball thrown downwards to be 1s. My final answer for the difference in flight time is 4-1=3s.

2.3.2) Each ball would strike the ground at the same speed.
vf = vi+a*t
= 14.7+9.8*1
= 144.06m/s

2.3.3) Using the heights of the two, I worked the distance for the first ball to be 8.624m and the second ball to be 14.896m. Subtracting the two would give a distance of 6.272m as my final answer.

All I am asking is for someone to please check my work because I am not sure if I have approached this problem in the correct way.
 
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TheRedDevil18 said:
1. 2.3.3) Using the heights of the two, I worked the distance for the first ball to be 8.624m and the second ball to be 14.896m. Subtracting the two would give a distance of 6.272m as my final answer.

All I am asking is for someone to please check my work because I am not sure if I have approached this problem in the correct way.


Check the number in red above! Otherwise all is good.
 
I think the first ball should be 14.896 and the second ball 8.624. Is that my mistake?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
1.

= 14.7+9.8*1 = 144.06m/s

Using the heights of the two, I worked the distance for the first ball to be 8.624m and the second ball to be 14.896m. Subtracting the two would give a distance of 6.272m as my final answer.

All I am asking is for someone to please check my work because I am not sure if I have approached this problem in the correct way.


Check the items in red above!
 
Ok I am a bit confused, but this is how I got 14.896m:
delta y = 14.7*0.8 + 1/2(9.8)*0.8^2
= 14.896m

Is there something I did wrong?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
Ok I am a bit confused, but this is how I got 14.896m:
delta y = 14.7*0.8 + 1/2(9.8)*0.8^2
= 14.896m

Is there something I did wrong?

Should that number be + or -?
 
If the answer should be negative, Why?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
If the answer should be negative, Why?

Because when you came up with y1 = +8.624m you defined y = 0 to be the balcony height, so anything below the balcony is negative. It should also be obvious that the second ball will be lower in height than the first, not higher as you had it.

So y1 = vi*t - gt^2/2 = 8.624m (ball tossed up but g is down)
y2 = -vi*t - gt^2/2 = -14.896m (ball tossed down & g is down)
y1 - y2 = 2vi*t = you fill this one in!

Just keep track of signs & you'll be fine.
 
So the final answer is 23.52m apart?
 
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TheRedDevil18 said:
So the final answer is 23.52m apart?

Yep.
 
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Ok, thanks for your help
 
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