Very simple spring constant questoin

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The spring constant for a vertical spring is defined as k=mg/Δ, while for a horizontal spring on a frictionless surface, it follows the equation F = kx. In horizontal motion, the acceleration 'a' in F=ma corresponds to the acceleration of the mass, not gravitational acceleration 'g'. It is crucial to remember that Newton's second law states that the sum of all forces equals mass times acceleration, not just a single force. Misunderstanding the relationship between forces in these equations can lead to confusion and errors in physics.
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Hi,

I've just been thinking about this too much and managed to confuse myself.

Spring constant for a vertical spring: k=mg/\Delta

Is it the same for a horizontal spring on a frictionless surface?

Thanks!
 
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No. Horizontally, it's just F = kx.
 
Limecat said:
No. Horizontally, it's just F = kx.

Thanks

So the "a" in F=ma in the horizontal case is just whatever acceleration the mass is undergoing, rather than g?
 
The thinker said:
Thanks

So the "a" in F=ma in the horizontal case is just whatever acceleration the mass is undergoing, rather than g?

Yes,you are right.
During the horizontal motion

F= ma = kx

And during the vertical motion

F = mg = kx

If friction is taken into count that force also shall be taken into count.
 
Newton's 2nd law says
Sum of Forces = m*a
not just F = m*a

When written as F = ma, this tends to neglect that it is the sum of all forces on the particle (Newton's 2nd law is for a particle).

Writing F = mg is prone to suggest errors. It is safer to write
W = m*g
as a reminder that it is the weight force specifically that is equal to mg.

I am continually amazed at the number of people I see posting here who want to confuse the F's in F = ma and F = mg by setting them equal to each other! There is a dangerous lack of thinking going on.
 
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