Voltage controlled resistor circuit Help

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a circuit to emulate a thermistor for measuring voltage, specifically in the context of a unit that measures temperature. Participants explore the parameters of the circuit, including control voltage ranges and resistance values, while seeking advice on suitable components and methodologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the parameters for emulating a thermistor, including a control voltage range of 6 to 42 volts and a resistance of 37.8K at 24 volts.
  • Another participant questions the purpose of emulating a thermistor, suggesting that it may be more complicated and expensive than using a thermistor directly.
  • A suggestion is made to consider using a digital potentiometer as a potential solution for the circuit design.
  • There is a proposal to clarify whether the goal is to measure the TRUE RMS value of voltage or to stabilize the output voltage of an oscillator.
  • A participant indicates that the unit has a microcontroller and aims to use one of the temperature inputs to measure the voltage of a 24V DC battery backup system, seeking to correlate temperature readings with voltage levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and complexity of emulating a thermistor versus using a thermistor directly. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve the desired measurement.

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There are limitations in the information provided, including the absence of a schematic or detailed instructions, which may hinder the ability to offer precise assistance. Additionally, the discussion includes assumptions about the application and functionality of the circuit that are not fully clarified.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in circuit design, particularly those working with thermistors, voltage measurement, and microcontroller applications may find this discussion relevant.

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I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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exclr8 said:
I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

After reading that 3 times, I still have no idea what you're doing.

Since you are measuring temperature, would it be safe to assume you're using some kind of microcontroller? Do you have a schematic? A set of instructions you're following?

You'll get much more help if you give people enough information to help you.
 
exclr8 said:
I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Can you use a digital potentiometer as the basis for it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_potentiometer

http://images.google.com/images?rlz...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDUQsAQwBA

http://www.analog.com/en/digital-to-analog-converters/digital-potentiometers/products/index.html

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I can't imagine why you would want to emulate a thermistor?
Any circuit to do so would be vastly more complicated and expensive than just using a thermistor.

In saying you want to use your thermistor to measure voltage, do you mean you want to measure the TRUE RMS value of voltage using the heating of the thermistor?

This is a viable proposition.

Or is the use for stabilising the output voltage of an oscillator?

Using the thermistor to measure peak or average values is less so as the response curve is decidedly non-linear.
 
The unit has a microcontroller. It will measure temp for more than one area. I want to use one of the temp inputs to measure the voltage of a 24v DC battery backup system. I want 24.0 degrees on the unit to equal 24.0 volts in the backup system. Since the thermistor has a value of 37.8K at 24degrees I need the circuit to have the same value of 37.8K when the input voltage is 24V.
 

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